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Marijuana Legalization: New York Times Editorial Sparks Debate

    August 4, 2014
    Val Powell
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The issue of marijuana legalization has been weighing on policymakers and the general public lately with increasing news of the drug’s medical benefits as well as its legalization in states such as Colorado and Washington State. Now, more than ever, opinions are flooding the Internet on whether marijuana should be allowed regulated consumption by the public or continue to be prohibited across most of the United States.

On July 27, 2014, The New York Times Editorial Board published an open letter titled, “Repeal Prohibition, Again,” which discussed their stand on marijuana legalization. In it, members of the board urged the Federal government to “allow recreational or medicinal production and use where it belongs — at the state level,” saying that marijuana is less dangerous than two other legal substances that have caused more deaths and diseases, namely, alcohol and tobacco.

They urge states to legalize medicinal uses of marijuana, reduce penalties or simply allow all use, restricting it to those above the age of 21 in order not to produce harmful effects in the adolescent brain. Members of the board believe that creating systems for regulating manufacture, sale, and marketing of marijuana will be a long and arduous process but ultimately one that will produce medical breakthroughs and reduce the number of people put in prison for nonviolent drug offenses.

Many dissenting and assenting reactions surfaced with the publication of The New York Times editorial, echoing the debates sparked across the country by this issue. Some opponents to marijuana legalization cited the effects of poor regulation of alcohol and tobacco as evidence that legalizing a harmful substance would not deter younger members of society from using it.

An ad taken out by Project SAM in reaction to the editorial posits that corporations that stand to make money from marijuana legalization will crop up and base their revenue on a “highly habit-forming product,” implying that the market system might not be ready for such a glut. Project SAM is against legalization but in favor of dropping minimum sentences and removing the criminal records of low-level users of marijuana, while pushing for better access to treatment and education.

Meanwhile, many are hopeful that the legalization of marijuana will allow advanced research into its medical benefits and find treatment for a number of complex diseases. Many voices are also urging the government to wait and see until Colorado and Washington State have implemented legalization of marijuana successfully, especially in the area of underage restriction, before taking the legalization plunge.

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  • Bacon Overlord

    How about, “NO”? Nobody seems to realize that businesses won’t hire people that take drugs, much less corporations or anything paying more than minimum wage. Not only that, but they definitely would have some issues hiring someone that has that kind of decision making process that they would want to be on drugs in the first place. Que the responses from “business owners” that are stoners. Please.. that doesn’t make you any less of a loser. The simple fact of the matter is: I don’t want this crap in my system so it will never be any more likely to catch on than smoking is to get LESS legislation.

    • Dee

      You have a point. And, if you don’t want to smoke when it’s legalized, don’t. Anyway, as far as getting hired by a corporation, a smart stoner would not show up to an interview high, or take a drug test if it’s in his system. Just the same as a drunk. Their sober at the interview, and at work. When they get home, they get trashed. Just saying…

      • Bacon Overlord

        Oxymoron of the day: smart stoner.

        Delicious.

    • anton

      go watch your cartoons this is grown folks business

      • Bacon Overlord

        Wow, another blazing intellectual. If I were you I wouldn’t try to insinuate that a child just brought up an obvious and accurate point about an illegal substance. Wouldn’t that just make you the more stupid because even a child would know better? Lol…. Potheads. The lights are on but nobody is home.

        • Adam Hanes

          How old are you? 80? The lights are on but nobody is home? Recreational pot smokers are not the hippies of the 70 nor even the stoners that all they do is get high every single day. They are like your occasional drinker. I’m sure since you have such an opposition to drugs that you have never partaken in the legal variety that they discussed in this article, being alcohol and tobacco. Want to talk about someone with the lights on but no one home? Look at your nearest drunk. Along with some of other posters on your ridiculously informative comment. What proof do you have to your argument? Research into marijuana has shown less harmful effects than that of alcohol and tobacco and causes significantly less impairment than consuming alcohol. As to your accurate point. What grounds will corporations have to not hire employees for the use of marijuana if it has become legalized? As long as they are not using it while at work there is not reason to even drug test them for the substance. It would be like a corporation saying, oh alcohol is legal but we won’t hire you if you consume it off the clock. It is a stupid idea and will cause a business to find very few employees as is the situation now.. do you see a business that sets these regulations? You are assuming that people are drug tested because of the drug itself, which is not the case. It is to stop from hiring people that are breaking the law and potentially losing an employee, that they spent time and money training, to jail after they are busted for breaking the law. It is not a statement on the drug itself. Your point is neither accurate nor valid. Have a lovely day working up your rebuttal.

          • Jonny Crash

            well said sir

          • Jeff Johnson

            From what I’ve seen, it’s the people who use booze and cigarettes and have stayed away from pot all their lives (probably because they were afraid it would make them try to ‘fly off a building’ lol) who are the most against legalization. It really chaps their ass to hear people saying that cigarettes and booze and all the other shit they’ve been using are WORSE than pot! They’ve spent their entire lives insulting and talking down about ‘stoners’ and ‘dopers’ that they now believe all the crazy shit they were fed as children!

            You can’t blame a person for NOT doing drugs. It’s a good thing when a person is able to abstain from any drug use throughout their life. But when they DO use drugs (coffee, cigarettes, booze) and then point and shake their finger at people who choose a different, safer (ooh, there’s that word again) substance, then they are just plain bigoted assholes.

        • Jeff Johnson

          Yeah man, we’re all cheech and chongs man! We’re all stoooooned, and that’s why we don’t agree, cause we’re all ‘potheads’ and ‘stoners’ and ‘dopers’ man.

          LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

          HANG IN THERE GRAMPS!!!!

          • Bacon Overlord

            Identifying the fact that you’re a dumbass is only the first step. You’ll get there eventually…. Maybe.

        • Jeff Johnson

          Yes, it’s the people who smoke too many marijuanas that are ‘the more stupid’!

          ROFLMAO!!!

          • Bacon Overlord

            Umm. Marijuana is the form. Blunts would be an example of something you would smoke. “Blunts” is, in fact, the plural version.

            So, try typing it this way:

            Yes, it’s the people like Jeff Johnsom that smoke too many blunts that don’t understand simple logic when they read it… Making them much more stupid than an average person.”

    • mat

      Oh wow ok so you’ve never taken aspirin paracetamol caffeine nicotine ? These are all drugs cannabis is merely labelled a drug to cause a bad stigma to be attached to it to protect all the greedy corporations in the pharmaceutical industry from having a natural unpatented wonder cure for numerous diseases and illnesses. Furthermore go visit Amsterdam and then come back and tell me that half the population are losers and that it ruins society just another dumb American sheep brainwashed by the media do some of your own research rather then taking what your government owned news channels give you

      • Bacon Overlord

        Lol… Yeah because apirin is a mind altering drug that will affect the people around the person taking it? Something tells me you’re a regular Einstein… For a stoner.

        • john

          aspirin is more toxic than cannabis

        • TC

          lol No because aspirin and the others mentioned can kill you. You OD if you take too much. Cannabis can’t kill you and the others mentioned, a majority of prescriptions I’d bet, ARE mind altering. Percoset, morphine and oxycodone, just to name a few, make you high, too. Acetaminophen (Tylenol) kills the liver, ibuprofin (Motrin) kills the kidneys. People take prescription AND non-prescription medications everyday that are both more addictive and more dangerous to the body than cannabis not to mention the fact that even something like allergy and cold medicines have a tendency to make people “spacy. People work and drive under the influence of these so-called “medicines”, the REAL drugs, and you say that’s OK. Cannabis, on the other hand, has NEVER been attributed to have caused a death in the thousands of years it has been used by just about every country and culture on the planet. It was never illegal until the 1930’s and people never stopped using it when it was made illegal. Any supposed problems you see happening with legalization have already been seen in the non-stop, thousands of years of use. Legalizing isn’t going to change the fact that people never stopped using cannabis and it has been and will always be used regardless of the laws. The best idea is to legalize and regulate it.

          • Jonny Crash

            damn right tc, damn right

          • Bacon Overlord

            Ok.. You’re a bright one. Don’t worry, stupidity seems to be the common denominator in these responses I’m replying to. You’re not alone. When you typed up your drama-filled cry, did you maybe stop to think about what you were actually replying to? How will you taking aspirin kill me? Dumbass.

            As far as it never been attributed to deaths… Google is your friend. You are so willfully ignorant that it’s actually pathetic. Any form of smoke has carcinogens in it. In case you didn’t know, smoke kills 500,000 people a year…. That includes smoke from non-cigarettes. Learn, then you can have some credibility…. And you’ll end up agreeing instead of getting made to look stupid.

          • Jeff Johnson

            You’re the ONLY ONE here spouting nonsense, and you want to call someone ELSE stupid? How is my getting high going to affect YOU!? What, am I gonna blow it in your face all day, is that what you’re saying?

            You know, cars emit poisonous, noxious gases into the air all day, in every town around the world. But that probably doesn’t bother you, because nobody out there is using car emissions to get high.

            So I’m assuming you want to start throwing cigarette smokers in prison now? Serves em right huh?!

            It’s clear why you’re so against pot. You’re either a crotchety old f&*k that is simply bitter that someone out there might have a good time while you sit at home stewing, or you’re truly frightened by the marijuana. Either way, that’s not the way to be.

          • Bacon Overlord

            I’m the only one slapping you idiots in the face with the relative metaphoric sledgehammer of facts. Why would anyone else even need to get involved? You can’t handle ONE person with an opposing view. What would you even do with two? End up curled up in the fetal position, crying into your bite-mark covered pillow? Lol. As far as cigarette smokers go, I honestly don’t care if they kill themselves. I really wish they would do it faster and in a way that doesn’t hurt other people that didn’t choose to do something as utterly moronic as smoke though.

          • Adam Hanes

            I have a chart I hope you will read here Bacon Overload… I mean Overlord (What a great name by the way)

            http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Causes_of_Death#sthash.5yROk9gO.dpbs

            In case you don’t want to look at it. Actual medical doctors. You know. Those people that went to school to study and cure the bad things that happen to the human body claim that cannabis is not directly linked to any deaths yearly.
            Are you a medical doctor that can produce research to refute them? No? Then you might want to stop calling people stupid for saying aspirin can kill you as it has a 1 percent mortality rate for acute overdose and a 16 percent mortality rate for chronic overdose. This is from the FDA if you were wondering.
            http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/02/briefing/3882b2_02_mcneil-nsaid.htm#_Toc18761780

            It’s weird because the last time I was in a math class the numbers 1 through 16 were all higher than zero (that being the reported risk of overdose of marijuana) Now that was a few months ago so I’m sure things could have changed

            Also here’s another one for you

            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17409920/?i=3&from=/18238947/related

            Yes you are right smoking itself is bad for you. But the worst that a study has found so far for an increase in lung cancer associated with smoking marijuana is about a twofold increase. Now let’s compare the dangers to a 17x increase in chance in cigarette use. Hmm wonder which one is more dangerous.

          • Bacon Overlord

            I honestly give you props for doing the research. I definitely would recommend researching on a website that doesn’t have a pot weed symbol on it though. As you might have noticed, stoners will say just about anything to try to get their drug of choice legalized.

            As far as what doctors say about the drug. You said deaths aren’t linked to cannabis. That’s not true, not even close. Do a search for driving deaths from pot, overdoses in Colorado, do a search for unemployment stats since pot was legalized. There are lots of negative issues. As far as pot not killing as many as cigarettes… That’s kind of a no-brainer. Cigarettes have been around for decades and people have had ample time to abuse them. Give it time……

          • Tweck

            People who call people stupid tend to be projecting. I think you should go sling your insults at a mirror, Mr. Overlord.

          • Bacon Overlord

            That may be the case, but there is another reason people call other people stupid…. When they are stupid.

            You didn’t think about that?

        • Jonny Crash

          doesnt alter the mind you say? so wtf is a headache? it must be a pain in your finger, yea thats it i take asprin to alter the pain in my finger not my BRAIN, fuckin moron……

          • Bacon Overlord

            LOL. Really! I sincerely hope you’re not that vacuously stupid that you compare aspirin to marijuana. I can see why you morons get high though. If I was this stupid, I’d want to escape too.

        • Jeff Johnson

          “It’s affecting the people around him. It’s making me frightened and afraid”!

          • Bacon Overlord

            I know you’re probably in a haze right now… So much so that you probably just pleased yourself with a hole in the wall and stuffed your stash into your wife’s vag…. But I really encourage you to reread what I’ve typed. Frightened isn’t in there. Neither is angry, but irritated… Slightly. Amused? VERY.

    • anonymous

      Your mind is closed. Wether legal or not you don’t want it in your system them stand clear of it. Better school programs and maybe even free healthcare is possible if cannabis is taxed and regulated.

      • Bacon Overlord

        Yes, my mind is closed. I don’t need drugs. You do… That’s up to you. But don’t do it around me or my kids. You can call that whatever you want. But I guarantee you the laws will change very quickly after the first few stoners get best down for assaulting people with their drug stink. Watch :)

        • Adam Hanes

          Except for the fact that crime rates have actually dropped in Colorado and Washington where it is now legal. Experts are suggesting that it’s from the fact that police are no longer wasting their time chasing after pointless marijuana offenses and focuses their effects where it actually matters. Like violent offenses. Time for your next “stupid” (figured I’d speak to you in your language) argument.

          • Bacon Overlord

            Wait, wait, wait… Hahaha.

            Did you find this information on a website with a pot leaf symbol on it? Because it’s insanely inaccurate. Try again. This time on a federal website.

    • bacon kills

      Haha, think you can spot a smoker? nope, most smoker are normal people and guess what, if you do have a job (my guess a welfare bum or living in your mother’s basement) probably work with smokers. And based off your ignorance, are better at your job than you. I can see why you choose bacon as an alias, the squealing you make.

      You are a growing minority buddy, might want to look around and ask yourself why you think your right when you have no facts to stand behind and just pent up anger.

      • Bacon Overlord

        I’m fairly confident I can spot someone smoking pot, yes. First of all, you’re an idiot. You can smell pot in someone’s clothes and hair from a long distance. I’m not a minority, actually. You haven’t hears from people like me because the legality of pot isn’t even an issue anywhere but the two small areas it’s been legalized. Try smoking in public or walking around stinking with it in your hair and clothing and see how fast you meet a LOT of people like me. Not everyone wants to get “high” or escape their problems. That’s something you stoners are infatuated with. Not the norm.

        • Jeff Johnson

          I’m not sure what planet you’re on, but here on earth, the pot debate is EVERYWHERE! It’s an ‘issue’ at the federal level. And soon, people like you will simply have to put up with the fact that people in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD are smoking pot, every day! OH THE HORROR!

          My advice to you is, talk to your own kids about drugs. It’s not the govts job to do that. If your kids grow up to smoke pot, that will be their OWN choice, based on the way YOU raised them. In short, if your kids smoke pot, and turn into pot zombies, it will be YOUR FAULT!

          • Bacon Overlord

            So, based on your own words,
            If I don’t “warn” my kids about using drugs and making poor choices it wi be my fault? Typical druggie trying to push all the blame on everyone else so they don’t have to take accountability for their actions. You see, if we are at the store and you walk in stinking of pot, that’s a drug. You’ve just assaulted me. It’s not like with cigarettes which, through someone’s intensely questionable wisdom, can be smoked right outside a dote and then they can walk in and expose everyone to second hand smoke on their clothing. We are talking about drugs. Mind-altering drugs. I don’t think too any people will sit still for that.

            Oh, and my kids will never become drug abusers, they like their lives and are actually very intelligent. Not that it takes much intellect to avoid becoming a stoner. But, considering most of these responses… Let’s just say “carrot” would be the cutoff as far as the IQ requirement.

          • bacon kills

            Sorry, are you implying that someone that stinks of pot is assaulting you? Be careful with comments like that when you sling around words like idiot.

            I would love to see this world, where every smoker is apparently smoking seconds before walking into your area. Plus the statement I said is you can’t spot a smoker, which you verified because unless they smoked seconds before meeting you, you have no way of telling that they smoke. Case and point. So again, people who smoke are everywhere and soon it will be the norm and people like you will be just a fading voice. Which as you can see there are few who have jumped on to defend you…

          • Bacon Overlord

            Lol. Spoken like a true smoker. You have no idea how badly you stink hours after you smoke and even take a shower. You have no clue how much cigarette stink gets into your nails, your eyes, your nasal passages, even your skin. And you think not smoking for 5 seconds makes that all-better? Then you want to try to call someone else an idiot. Ahh, the delicious irony.

            And, yes. The smoke on your clothes and in your hair is still just as potent and full of carcinogens as it was when you were breathing it in while you smoked.

            You speak from such a level of complete ignorance and stupidity that it’s really sad. You’re exactly the person that probably is responsible for several deaths during the time you’ve been so self involved and self indulgent while you’ve smoked your little drug. Stupid, stupid little man.

          • Bacon Overlord

            By the way, I don’t need anyone to defend me. I speak for the people that actually have an intellect in the world that wouldn’t even bother to correct your idiocy or stoop to trying to explain something as simple as how smoke (of any kind) clings to surfaces and is carcinogenic as well as maintaining its properties (THC) in this example. So before you try to throw down with someone that knows what’s going on, it might be prudent to pull your head out of your rear.

          • Jonny Crash

            exactly, most stoners will tell kids to go away or stay away from them

    • Meow

      You should talk about this in Nancy or Bill O’Riley’s show. You don’t have a single reasonable facts, and just blabbing your biased opinions.

      Definitely a suited guest for the two shows mentioned.

      • Bacon Overlord

        You mean besides the fact that I don’t want to be subjected to someone else’s poor life choices? That’s actually my right. And when all the research starts tumbling in to prove what we already know as “burnout” syndrome, the lawsuits will start. But, unfortunately for you, there isn’t a company to sue. And I’ll be just fine… Enjoy!

        • Jeff Johnson

          “PLEASE HELP, SOMEONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS SMOKING POT IN THEIR OWN LIVING ROOM, AND IT’S SUBJECTING ME TO THEIR POOR LIFE CHOICES”!

          • Bacon Overlord

            Wow… Aren’t you just the bright, shiny penny? At what point would someone abusing drugs in their home be an issue for someone else? As long as they shower well, wash their hair, clip their nails and don’t take any paper or clothing that isn’t freshly washed out of their house, then nobody will be able to tell…

            But, as there is a striking connection between lack of hygiene and people stupid enough to abuse drugs, that won’t be the case. We will end up with people getting contact highs standing in super markets and ending up having some kind of medical reaction or beating the ever-loving snot out of the stoner…. That’s when legislation will have no choice but to levy tighter and tighter controls…. Then the police will be your best friends. Won’t that be fun?

          • Jeff Johnson

            Ok, then let me rephrase that.

            ‘HELP! THIS STONER HAS MARIJUANA MOLECULES ON HIS CLOTHING! HE’S CONTAMINATING MY SPACE TRYING TO GET ME AND MY CHILDREN HIGH AGAINST OUR WILL! OUR OTHER NEIGHBOR HAS DRAINO RESIDUE ON HIS FINGERTIPS TOO! THAT’S A CHEMICAL! HE’S ASSAULTING ME!’

          • Bacon Overlord

            So, now you take proven fact and try to discredit it through…. Caps?

            Wow…. What a sincerely lost cause.

          • Jonny Crash

            exactly, dont see me complaining to walmart about their cleaning section messing with my sinuses, making my all light headed from the chemicals

          • Jeff Johnson

            “AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN MY TOWN TOO PLEASE! THEY SMELL! THEIR SMELL PARTICLES ARE GOING TO GIVE ME A CONTACT STENCH!”

          • Bacon Overlord

            I’m sure you think that means something or it was an attempt at humor or maybe even some kind of whiticism. But, it’s not… It’s a pathetic attempt at making fun of a sad situation. Loser.

    • Youssef Ismail

      Complete nonsense, you have absolutely no idea what you are yapping about. Why don’t you spend a little time worrying about your own job?

      • Bacon Overlord

        Uhh. Thanks for the completely irrelevant and useless post? Stupid…

    • Craig F

      With that kind of thinking alcohol should be illegal also. Alcohol is a drug and it causes many more deaths than pot. So what you are saying is businesses shouldn’t hire people that drink alcohol?

      • Jonny Crash

        dont forget chocolate that kils people every year
        chocolate = addictive and is known as the “happy” food (isnt that a mind altering effect?)

        makes people fat cause its addictive which kills someone over time

    • hibbidyhooblah

      You don’t smoke pot, so what’s your excuse for not knowing sixth grade vocabulary?

      • Bacon Overlord

        Lol… I laughed at this. Literally. Thanks.

    • Joshua Kaplan

      yeah…you really have no clue what you’re talking about. a business owner that smokes pot is a loser? how about louis armstrong? steve jobs? loser. loser. ray charles? loser. carl sagan? loser. john lennon? loser. francis crick? loser. but even though these society changing individuals all smoked weed, bacon overlord says that everyone that smokes weed is a loser. hear that everyone? *crickets

      • Bacon Overlord

        Wow. I can make up some names of people that are so stupid they would smoke something and subject everyone around them to their poor life choices because they are just made of win. No, actually. Let’s not. That would be stupid. Bottom line: if you can’t explain away how people get cancer that have never smoked or why the police arrest people for using pot, then you have no basis for arguing.

        • Jonny Crash

          you know plastic has been linked to certain types of cancer right? is it so hard to believe that there are other things that cause it other then tobacco? (no weed has not been linked to cancer, in fact science has proven weed killes cancer cells even tho is cause a lil tar)

          • Bacon Overlord

            THIS JUST IN: A pothead claims marijuana (their drug of choice) cures diseases! To the surprise of nobody.

          • Jonny Crash

            this just in, an uneducated troll makes up his own ideas and claims others said them

            i said kills cancer cells not cures cancer learn to read toll

          • Jonny Crash

            blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda

    • Jonny Crash

      oh really cause they hire asswholes that use pain killers and anti anxiety meds, your logic is flawed, once legalized it will become illegal to fire or refuse to hire someone taking weed as a medication

      • Bacon Overlord

        LOL! The hell you say. That’s got to be one of the most idiotic replies so far. I mean, most of them have been hilarious, but to say. Doctor can be allowed to be high? Hahahahahaha. You win the stupidest post award.

        • Jonny Crash

          wow your ignorance is showing might want to pull up you trousers, weed is a medication, it treats a wide verity of ailments and will replace garbage meds that kill people by the 1000s, your an uneducated slob, guess your name should have gave that way tho

          sheeple is a sheeple is a sheeple, you dont learn cause you dont try to, you just watch the medea headlines and pretent you have a clue to whats going on, do the research or remain an ignorant peon….

          • Bacon Overlord

            A MEDICATION… Hahahahahaha. Stoners… Just so full of stupid. Cannabis has some elements that are rumored to help with seizures. Not marijuana though. Do your research. Marijuana is just the easy way to get it.

          • Jonny Crash

            yea like how your pills have a lil medication and alot of garbage to apply it. u dont think medication comes in pill form naturally do you? you dont think all the nasty side effects are from the medicine do you? fact is, the plant we smoke has faaaaaar less side effects then big pharma meds, it helps a laundry list of illnesses, tru enough only one small part of the plant is the medicine, but, it doesnt kill us like all other meds can and do on a daily basis

          • Bacon Overlord

            Medicine: : a substance that is used in treating disease or relieving pain and that is usually in the form of a pill or a liquid
            : the science that deals with preventing, curing, and treating diseases

            Marijuana is NOT medication, dolt. Not that it wasn’t obvious. But I keep closing the doors to your little pointless arguments. Like I said, I enjoy pistol whipping you morons.

            And it wasn’t surprising AT ALL, to see
            You try to point the finger at actual medication to take the focus off marijuana. Too funny.

          • Jonny Crash

            “usually in the form of a pill or a liquid”

            funny weed comes in both those forms so i guess it is medicine or are you too dim to realize that smoking it is not the only application

            im not trying to take the focus off anything, but of course you would support all the bad drugs big pharma throws at you and as far as Actual medication goes, yours kill people, mine helps them

            medication:
            1.(medicine) something that treats or prevents or alleviates the symptoms of disease

            2.the act of treating with medicines or remedies

            medicine:
            1.the branches of medical science that deal with nonsurgical techniques
            2. something that treats or prevents or alleviates the symptoms of disease
            3.the learned profession that is mastered by graduate training in a medical school and that is devoted to preventing or alleviating or curing diseases and injuries
            4.punishment for one’s actions

            funny how when i look up the legal term it doesnt mention pills or liquids

          • Bacon Overlord

            Lol. If the base word doesn’t apply then any conjugation or form of the word won’t either.

            Marijuana doesn’t cure anything, disease or otherwise. Hence it is not “medicine”. Sadly I had to explain a basic definition. But, hey you’re sooooooo smart. Thanks for the laugh.

            If half you idiots understood what irony means, you would get how ridiculous half of the idiocy you post is and call it “fact” and “information”…. I laugh my ass off more in here than most other threads.

          • Jonny Crash

            lol, cure my ass, medicine hasnt cured anything since the gov was creating them, the second big pharma stepped in it became about treatment not cures, but, you wouldnt know anything about that cause your just a sheeple

          • Bacon Overlord

            Haha. Yeah, what would I know about the fact that there is such a thing as “medicine” that does, in fact, cure diseases. Think back to all the times you caught STDs and didn’t die. Why didn’t you die? Oh, right… Medicine. Don’t forget all the rampant diseases we have that aren’t prevalent anymore due to inoculations and preventative booster shots…. Also medicine. The list goes on and on. But, hey you stick with your broken English and stupidity. It’s what I expect at this point anyway.

          • Jonny Crash

            most STDs dont have a cure and i have never had any sorry to bust that bubble, inoculations and preventative booster shots are not cures they are treatments that help prevent, but does not cure, you cant take them after the fact and be cured sorry and hey spelling nazi, this is the net i dont need perfect english, im not gonna spell check everything i type, this is not an essay so shove you holier then thou bullshit right up that troll ass of yours

            here comes the blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda as norm

          • Bacon Overlord

            Lol!!!!!

            Wow. Just… Wow.

            Dumbass.

          • Jonny Crash

            see i knew it, blah blah bah and yadda yadda yadda

          • Bacon Overlord

            Ironic that you made more sense with that post than in most of your others because it indicated that you realized you were making zero sense.

            That’s the first step… Now you have to fix it.

          • Jonny Crash

            its not my job to fix your mental issues sorry sir, and blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda

        • Jeff Johnson

          Yes, doctors, surgeons, airline pilots, and babysitters. They will all be the first to stay high 24/7!

          • Bacon Overlord

            Possibly… Not if they want to keep their jobs. But, who knows? Or who cares for that matter. Was that your failed attempt at sarcasm or something?

    • Jonny Crash

      so you know thats 705 of america
      and sorry but you clearly dont know the meaning of “loser”, a business owner is less of a loser then their employees, for that matter im a stoner and retired before the age of 30 which makes me less of a loser then most others, not that it matters as im sure you work in a cube making people like me richer, whos the loser here?

      • Bacon Overlord

        “Retired” and “wealthy” isn’t it funny how those aren’t spelled the same? I know lots of “retired” people that are barely scraping by. So, tell me mr. Smart: what in the utter hell does you calling yourself retired have to do with the stupidity of abusing drugs? Lol. Nice job…. You also fucked up by saying that people working In a cubicle make you “richer”… How does that work when you’re mr. Retired? Lol…… Go smoke some more pot.

        • Jeff Johnson

          “Um, well, yeah and uh, well, well, well, you’re just stoned!”

          That’s always what the weak prohibitionists say when they’re backed into a corner by their own ignorance.

          • Bacon Overlord

            Maybe. But through your drug-induced intellectual stunting, maybe you saw something that wasn’t there… Since that’s not a direct quote from anything I’ve said. So…. Try again?

          • Jeff Johnson

            Nope, but that’s how it sounds!

            Have you ever even smoked pot? I’m betting you’ve never even smoked it. I bet you have NO IDEA what you’re talking about.

            One thing’s for sure, people love to comment on your posts! You obviously leaves trails of fans and friends everywhere you go!

          • Bacon Overlord

            What kind of credibility would I have if I was stupid enough to be a stoner? Zero? Less than zero with points taken off for being idiotic? Lol. And I can’t help it that some people don’t like the truth. Whining comes naturally to them.

        • Jonny Crash

          your ignorance is showing again, saying im retired at 30 should indicate it took me 40+ less years then its gonna take you (or have i have no idea how old you are) and most other people (which the goal to runnin the rat race is to retire) which means i win, now i get to sit here on this beach drinkin my drinks and chillin while your prolly still slave away for some asshole who was smart enough to not get stuck in a dead end career

          again i dont “abuse” any drugs, i used a medication to better my life….

          ” im sure you work in a cube making people like me richer” you fucking moron learn to read

          definition of the word LIKE
          resembling or similar; having the same or some of the same characteristics; often used in combination

          when i made that statement i was talking about people who know better then you, that started their own businesses and get rich off of peons like you punching that clock, now im by now means wealthy, but at least i dont have to worry about making a paycheck to pay my bills and can relax for the next what 70 years or till i die anyways

          • Bacon Overlord

            Lol. Guess who isn’t buying it? Oh, right. The person that’s here to try to inject some sense into you lowbrow, moronic retards that think smoking pot is just OK.

            I took the time to make fun of you because I caught you on your contradiction about working, then not working, then being retired, but then you have people working for you. But, no, really… You’re actually retired. Now this long post to try to prove something. I can smell the stupid on you from here.

          • Jonny Crash

            your a troll and a moron, you fail to understand english, you fail to understand simple logic, and you just plain fail at life, go back to your sterilized lil life and enjoy banging your head off that wall like the tard you are

          • Bacon Overlord

            Says the guy that doesn’t even understand how he’s been dismissed about something he shouldn’t have even started arguing about. Trying to justify drug use…. Yeah, great subject to look like an idiot over, lol. It was a losing battle from the start.

            I just enjoy stating the obvious and watching druggie whiners try to justify things. I find it hilarious actually.

          • Jonny Crash

            i have only lost in your weak and simple mind, i have states my case with facts, and you have ignored everything, cause people like your laways think your right, up there on your high horse, like you dont do drugs, lol like your kind is better then us, we win you lose, we are right you are wrong, you are part of small minute and unimportant group of people that will disappear with your propaganda spewing ideals

          • Bacon Overlord

            It might work better for you if you try to make your unfounded diatribe post in a way that simple English will apply. Otherwise you lose credibility when you say things that are condescending. It just comes off as desperate and whining.

          • Jonny Crash

            blah blah blah, rubbish this and rubbish that, lies lies lies, blah blah blah

            thats pretty much all you have said this whole time

    • Jeff Johnson

      Stick with the fatty and salty bacon then, and don’t smoke pot! Pretty simple huh?!

      As for the slurs (stoners, losers), actually, yes, being successful DOES make someone less of a loser! And, in my humble ‘loser’ opinion, so does NOT being afraid of a plant based on lies and misinformation.

      You are doing nothing but showing everyone how afraid you are. What you should probably do, is lock yourself in your house, so you won’t EVER have to talk to a person who’s smoked pot before. Keep your phone though, so you can call and talk to your buddies about ‘all those pot zombies’ when the pot zombie apocalypse takes place!

      In a few years, people will look at you the same way they looked at racists in the 80s and 90s and today. Still hanging on to old stereotypes and using slurs to define people. People who use slurs to describe others are insecure, cowardly, and prejudiced, Just stay inside, and maybe you’ll be nice and safe.

      • Bacon Overlord

        Lol… Yeah, THAT’S EXACTLY HOW IT WILL GO DOWN. Hahahahahaha. The marijuana-racism police will come knocking on the door (since you’re such a stupid fuck that you think those are “slurs”) and take me away…. You really need to lay off the drugs. I’m seriously having a hard time making fun of you because there are too many options. It’s like someone just handed me a box full of slips of paper…. Too many to count… lol.

        Suffice to say that your little scenario iseas likely than the police coming to your door to give you an involuntary vasectomy to avoid that level of outright dumbshit being allowed to dilute the genepool, lol.

    • Godzilla

      This is not true I get warned for every drug test. I’m in my 50’s. Smoked through high school. Was a merit honor roll scholar. Failed my first drug test in 1985. It has been well said over the years that you lose your best people in random drug tests. I work in food plants, hospitals, chemical plants. I worked on Pulse Detonation in a Seattle Aerospace lab. I’m a technical service technician. Can you tell me the top PLC based control system from Allen Bradley?…. No? Sorry, your argument carries little weight. I have stopped from time to time, but my BP goes sky high… So I have to go on medications that don’t work. Yours is your opinion.. But its got no facts attached.

      • Bacon Overlord

        Well aren’t you just full of utter shit. You idiot stoners just need to stop, hahaha. You can detect the use marijuana (especially long term use) for up to 30 days.

        And if someone is so stupid and so utterly hooked on a mind altering drug that they can’t refrain from doing it while working at a job where they KNOW they will be fired form it… How exactly, in your stunted and drooling intellectual perspective, can you call them “good people” for the job? Oh,
        Sorry… Your exact quote was “best people”.

        Lol!!!!!! Keep it coming, fools. Masochists abound in this forum.

    • Cunningham

      until you realize that alcohol is a very bad drug that people die from, but you accept that drug, but not pot that no one has ever died from?

      • Bacon Overlord

        Logical person: smoking pot isn’t something I want to be exposed to and people don’t know the dangers yet since it hasn’t been legal for very long.

        Pothead: alcohol… Look over there! Alcohol! See how bad it is? Bad Alcohol, bad!

  • bw

    Businesses’ & Corporations already hire people that take drugs, if you want to call smoking a plant taking a drug? It’s just a weed & there’s absolutely NOTHING wrong with it!
    It doesn’t matter if it is legal or not, people that want to use it are going to use it regardless! Actually, I prefer it stay the way it is because everything the Government gets involved in, be it local or federal, only gets screwed up anyway!

    • Bacon Overlord

      Yes, “we” call that taking drugs. See… THC is in the leaves, numbskull. It’s what causes people’s reaction times to slow down, comprehension goes out the window and so does work ethic. Which is also a real “duh” moment when I say that companies don’t hire stoners…. For reasons that escape your blunted intellect but are obvious to everyone else.

      • john

        we live in a drug oriented society. and by the way companies hire drug users all the time, coffee drinkers, cigarette smokers, alcohol drinkers. I guess these are things that you have never used, huh
        again with the stereotypes “comprehension goes out the window and so does work ethic”. simply not true. Steve Jobs smoked pot and created a multi-billion dollar company. Carl Sagan smoked pot and he was a globally recognized expert on the cosmos. so again your argument falls flat. nothing you say is factual, just pure horse sh!t, or should I say pig sh!t.

        • Bacon Overlord

          Right… Ok. So you’re obviously very successful and smart, right? Would you hire a pothead? Whoops? I guess that’s where it all makes sense, huh? Stupid…

          • Jonny Crash

            i did and they were great workers unlick the sober dipshits that had no work ethics and tried to call off all the time so i would have to replace them

          • Bacon Overlord

            You are hilarious. First of all, almost all potsmokers are also cigarette smokers (this speaks to their slow wit and stupidity as well) which comprise 90% of the medical call offs and long term medical issues that plague the workforce. Even more so than morbidly obese people. So, how do you explain that? Wait, wait.. Let me guess.

            That just doesn’t happen, right? Hahahahahaha. You stoners are a riot.

          • Jonny Crash

            lmao, i used to smoke tobacco, not once ever did it cause me to call off work so you have no ground to stand on with that garbage, 2nd 90% of “medical” call offs are people just trying to get out of work, they are not really sick which is why i said what i said

            go pull more unrealted stats out your ass troll

          • Bacon Overlord

            Unrelated to what? Your post? Wow.

            Yeah, that’s why tobacco users don’t qualify for most corporate medical plans and have a hard time getting hired. Google is your friend.

          • Jonny Crash

            tobacco related days off are few and far between
            indeed it is try using it sometime

        • Jonny Crash

          lol nice1

      • TC

        ROFL Bacon, you seem to be proof of a “blunted intellect”. “Taking Drugs” also applies to taking any prescription OR non-prescription medication. Many of them make you high, slow your reaction time and kill your comprehension, not to mention your body and it’s organs. Only a small percentage of cannabis users fall into your narrow-minded, draconian view of them. The majority are hard-working, taxpayers who work for all kinds of companies INCLUDING those that test for it. They’ve always been there, right in front of you or in the cubicle next to you. Getting their jobs done, taking care of their families, putting the kids through college, etc. Statistics show that it’s very likely a good number of the people you work with now are probably cannabis users and you wouldn’t know because they are responsible about it. They don’t smoke at work or show up stoned and don’t advertise the fact that they go home and smoke a bowl like many enjoy a beer or glass of wine. I hate when people use the “dumb stoner” stereotype. It shows their complete ignorance about the subject and their lack of intellect. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Carl Sagan and so many other scientific and creative geniuses use cannabis. Those are just the stand-outs. The typical user is unrecognizable as a cannabis user unless they’re stoned at the moment you happen to see them. The “stoner”, living in mom’s basement, playing video games and eating Twinkies is a stereotype and NOT typical of most cannabis users.

        • Bacon Overlord

          And? Did I say ONLY POT? When they do a drug screening during a job interview or have a random drug testing at your job, do they hang up a sign that’s says “pot only line”? Dumbass…you have to disclose ANY drugs you take. That’s always been the case. Someday when you work for an actual corporation where you wear a suit instead of an apron covered in fry grease, you’ll understand.

          • Jeff Johnson

            What a troll.

          • Bacon Overlord

            Time to look that word up… I do believe you might just learn something today.

          • Jonny Crash

            urine tests only test for 3 kinds of drugs, weed, pain meds, and cocaine, since they they are only testing for illegal drugs that leaves weed and cocaine and since this was a story about legalizing weed and not cocaine that leaves weed……..

          • Bacon Overlord

            Actually it depends on the test, besides…. You’re assuming the people you’re talking about are idiots. Sounds like you’re a stoner.

          • Jonny Crash

            ugh actually no, urine tests test for only 3 kinds of drugs, to test for the others that DONT stick to fat cells (which is how urine tests work, by evaluating the fat cells in your urine) you would have to take a blood analysis…

          • Bacon Overlord

            Good god… So, what you’re saying is: it depends on the test.

            You just exude stupid.

          • Jonny Crash

            your the one that was talkin about a job doing drug screening, and they do urine tests so who is the stupid one? i think it might be the who does not understand their own statement.

            a job would not ever do a blood analysis cause they are expensive, not only that even if they did opt for one they have to use the DR you choose, at which point you can talk them into the most expensive ones that run upwards of $500 which a job just isnt really gonna pay for a new employee even at a fortune 500 (tho some might be that ignorant im sure theres at least 1 that would, but then they would be out the $500 and if they fail its 100% a waste)

          • Bacon Overlord

            Thank you for that long, drawn out explanation of my post. I appreciate the support? You’re so dumb, lol.

      • Bryan

        The medical weed I use don’t get me high cause it don’t have THC and it is named cannabis oil and it stops my seizures and could be saving my life so what about that!!!!!!!!

        • Bacon Overlord

          What about it? You must be high on something to think this even applies somehow…. Congrats on your post that has utterly failed.

          • Bryan

            I’m not trying to be high or talk about recreational weed your right. I am trying to say that medical marijuana should be legal not recreational cause medical can save lives man I am being serious !

          • Bacon Overlord

            I think the information on medical marihuana being used as anything more than a comfort drug is sketchy at best, but if it helps you, then that should be a case-by-case.

          • Jeff Johnson

            So long as Bacon can get a look at you personally, to make sure you’re not a stoner Bryan, then maybe.

      • Jonny Crash

        lol, funny, i was asked by doler general if i could “take” their drug test (the only urine analysis i have ever taken cause employers cant force you to take them) and failed it, the manager asked my why i made him waste the $$ on a drug test when i knew i wouldnt pass it and i told him he never asked if i could “pass” it, he asked if i could “tale” it which i did, he laughed and hired me…….
        you spewing propaganda, it doesnt slow you down unless your lazy, your comprehension is not effected at all (the people your talking about were already morons like yourself who cant comprehend simple scientific data) and us stoners have far superior work ethics then most others and are better at our jobs cause we focus on the details and are well organized, for example, i would never smoke before work, take smoke to work or have to delivered there, i would always be 30min early to work, i would not call in sick unless i was sick (which is once every 5 years, maybe) and have taken a notepad to work to right down my duties as they train me, and even hold onto it for months after to make sure i dont forget what im supposed to be doing….

        my point is not everone is the teenage stoner slacker that is good for nothing, you dont have to smoke weed to be that kind of idiot, we are individuals who all live how we want, we will either be responsible or childish, no plant is gonna change your personality to the point your describing….

        • Bacon Overlord

          So, you’re really seeking to be heard here when you weren’t even bright enough to get a job at “doler” general? Wow. You’re representing the proponents of drug legalization really well, hahaha. Stupid…

          • Jonny Crash

            looks liek someone doenst know how to read, i said i WAS hired you moron, i have also owned and sold 3 successful business and retired before the age of 30, so bright that up you ignorant ass

          • Bacon Overlord

            You said you failed the test because you’re a stoner dumbass. But hey, enjoy the job at “doler” general,
            Lol. That’s about as far as you’ll get anyway.

          • Jonny Crash

            i mentioned that cause you said stoners cant get hired which is complete bullshit, i worked there, made some $$ and moved on which is what you do with jobs

          • Bacon Overlord

            Lol… Yeah, ok. Haha.

          • Bacon Overlord

            You really raked
            In the dough at “doler” general while you were planning your attack on Wall Street to retire at 30, lol. Stoners…. So full of shit.

          • Jonny Crash

            wow and you say stoners are idiots, i not once mentioned i made bank working there, i got paid, paid some bills and moved on, do i need to repeat everything to your dumbass? i mean really? this is like talking to a 3yo who refuses to accept reallity, gtfo.
            wall street? where did you get that fuck tard? i retired cause i made smart business decisions and worked hard, but i guess you wouldnt know what thats like

      • Jeff Johnson

        Seems you have a lot of experience with pot and it’s effects! How often do YOU get high?!

        • Bacon Overlord

          Oh, I see… You’ve somehow mistaken me for someone that would list issues, give out facts, warn against consequences….. And then ignore everything I’ve said and go use pot…. And here I thought you were one of the few people that had brain cells enough to pit together a lucid thought.

          • Jeff Johnson

            So you’re just trolling for the hell of it, about something you yourself have NO experience with. When a person who’s never had a drink of alcohol tries to tell me my alcohol is going to rub off onto him and make him sick, I think, ‘wow, this guy’s either off a God limb’ or ‘this guy probably needs to be in someone’s care’.

            It’s the same thing I feel when someone who’s never smoked pot before is telling me they’re fearful that marijuana molecules are going to rub off on him and his children, making them high and turning them into reefer addicts. Kind of a sense of apathy really.

            I’m done here. You’re obviously either genuinely paranoid and delusional, or you’re a troll just trying to get a rise, either way, have a great day! Hope ya don’t get stoned from a public toilet seat anytime soon!

          • Bacon Overlord

            Lol.. Dumbass.

            There’s really nothing more to say to someone that tries to draw some strange parallel between a toilet seat and a contact high. So stupid…

  • Bob C

    Is it not about time that Dow chemicals Hemp smear campaign be exposed for what it is? Dow’s effort to keep hemp fiber from competing with their line of poorer quality and more expensive synthetic fibers. Their “Reefer Madness” smear campaign has had a very costly and negative impact on our society. Created a black market for for the mafia, and terrorist organizations to profit from. Imprisoned countless thousands of good people, at great expense to our taxpayers, only to protect their profits.
    Wake up America you’ve been DUPED!!!

    • Bacon Overlord

      Yeah… That’s what’s going on, hahahahahaha. Stupid stoners. I’m sure that sounded like a compelling conspiracy theory to you, but you’re an idiot. To the rest of is it sounded like a stoner trying to do Algebra.

      • branttt

        Get used it it, bacon boy, weed is here to stay. We don’t care if you don’t approve, your whining is music to our ears. And next year we are gonna take your gun.

        • Bacon Overlord

          Yeah……. Now I know you really ARE high. Wow. Have fun with those civil
          Liberty trampling attempts.

      • john

        to the rest of us you sound like a drunken fool contemplating is navel. beware the lint monster lurking there because he is much smarter than you are troll.

        • Bacon Overlord

          A what doing what?

          Do us a favor, post something interesting or at least relevant and try to do so by using English. You know, what you didn’t learn when you dropped out of the third grade?

          • knowing one

            I understand why bacon overlord is having a problem with stoners. He thinks smoking it is the only form that marijuana comes in, so heres some info for you. It comes in pill form, foods, injectables, and drinks. Smoking does cause a very low tar buildup in your lungs over a very long period of time, but you can use one of these other forms if that is a concern to you. I will also address this other problem he seems to have, the effects of the drug. The effects are temporary and do no permanent damage to your brain unlike other toxic substances such as alcohol and all of the chemicals found in tobacco products. Now if you don’t want to use it or be around it then the laws that government has applied to alcohol and tobacco should be applied too. This last issue you have of non-productive people who use pot in society they would use something else to escape reality if pot didn’t exist, its in their nature. I think that if legalization were to become a reality, which it will, than respect others and their life choices and they will respect yours. No laws should ever be created to jail people who participate in something that doesn’t harm others. I’,m sure Mr bacon does things behind closed doors he doesn’t want the public to know about, so you keep to yourself and we will do the same. Have a nice future everyone.

          • Jonny Crash

            indeed, but, trolls dont keep to themselves

          • Bacon Overlord

            I’ve only ever spoken on the topic of smoking it. I couldn’t care less if someone decides to take drugs as long as they don’t drive or hurt anyone else.

      • TC

        From the “Reefer Madness” tone and ideas in your comments, Bacon, it sounds like you need some education. You’re comments are ignorant have nothing to do with any reality or facts. You should at least make an attempt to learn a little bit about the actual facts and not just spout old, dis-proven rhetoric. Read the studies being done. Seems the “stupid stoners” at least have the brains to research the facts and not just repeat propaganda from the 30’s. Algebra? You’re funny. From a recent study:

        “Despite popular belief, new findings from a team at the University of Minnesota suggest marijuana use at an early age may not be that detrimental to cognitive function.

        “Marijuana users were high functioning, demonstrating comparable IQs to controls and relatively better processing speed,” note the researchers.”

        From what I’ve read in that and other studies, it seems to depend on the user. Some users scored low on algebra and calculus, but better than non-users on higher math. Others scored better on non-math subjects. Many had scores comparable to non-users in most subjects.

        • Guest

          He’s a bigot and rank hypocrite. He does not care about acquiring any knowledge on this matter. Open-mindedness and tolerance are anathema to people like him.

          • Bacon Overlord

            Right… Because being a “bigot” has something to do with identifying people that abuse drugs as being stupid. Buy a dictionary… Then use it.

        • Bacon Overlord

          Yes… I’m so lacking in my education when I say that I don’t make poor life choices. I’m not trying to escape who I am or what my life is. Is there something about that you need to “educate” me on? I didn’t think so. Keep your mind altering drugs to yourself, idiot. That’s the message here. Also, when they do legalize it and you can’t get a job because everyone does drug screenings, think about this post, haha.

        • Jeff Johnson

          TC, I typically have no problem communicating, or doing any tasking that requires communicating or writing, but I have to admit the times I’ve tried taking an IQ test high, I did not score well on. So, at least for me, being high obviously impairs my IQ.

      • Craig F

        Do your research before spewing your theories based on lies. Some of the most intelligent people in history smoked pot. Thomas Edison, Carl Sagan, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are some of them and some took LSD also. It sounds like you watched Reefer Madness and thought it was a real documentary.

        • Bacon Overlord

          Yes, my “lies” are so wrong. Stupid people NEVER take drugs. That NEVER happens. In fact, the drug screenings they do in large businesses and corporations are really just fake and almost all the Fortune 500 companies really don’t actually screen their employees………….. Oh wait….

          • Jonny Crash

            they screen for illegal drugs cause they are illegal not cause they care if their employees do them, if they did they would find a way to screen for alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs….
            also no one has ever argued that stupid people have done drugs, we argue that not all people that do them are stupid, we as a species want to feel good, always have, always will, sad thing is you never will and we feel sorry for your blind ignorance

          • Bacon Overlord

            Nobody is that dumb…. You really don’t think they would check for drugs that alter mental capacity and coordination as well as cause respiratory issues? They ask if you smoke even when you apply for a job….

            Or are you suggesting you would lie? I mean. I kind of expect that. You’ve been lying on here….

      • Joshua Kaplan

        richard feynman smoked weed. i’ll bet he could do algebra…also quantum electrodynamic mechanics. and a ton of other stuff. but i’m sure he’s a stupid stoner too. i eagerly await to hear news of bacon overlord winning the nobel prize in calling just about anyone with a differing opinion stupid.

        • Bacon Overlord

          Another gem of wisdom about a singular person in the history of the world that may, or may not, have smoked pot. Congratulations! You actually did all that typing and proved……… Nothing.

          • Joshua Kaplan

            there is nothing to prove. i simply pointed out that your comment was inaccurate (and i made fun of you). you make these broad, all encompassing statements (like everyone that does this is this way or that way) as if a person with your apparent lack of experience and empathy has a clue about what is true for anyone but yourself.

          • Jonny Crash

            indeed

          • Bacon Overlord

            Yes, wow. You sure made fun of me by making up someone that might have smoked pot a long time ago. I’ll NEVER get over that one….. Dumbass.

            Empathy??? What, seriously? Look it up, Einstein. If you think I can personally relate to a pot smoking idiot, then you might want to stop drinking the bong water.

          • Joshua Kaplan

            well…the making fun was the nobel prize part…see, you don’t have to be antagonistic or insulting to get a point across. regarding feynman’s use, it’s publicly documented material. not making it up. (and not that it relates to the published subject matter but just to tweak your highly elevated nose a bit, edison enjoyed cocaine elixirs. yep. documented. not fantasy or trolling nonsense. fact.). when you make a global statement like, “all flowers are red.” all i need to disprove it is a single example of one that is not. so your argument regarding intelligence and marijuana use is fallacious. also the one about all potheads being losers. (really? that’s just raging nonsense-not that this will stop you from roaring untruths and propaganda or accepting responsibility for spewing vitriol and fiction) . finally, you calling me ‘dumbass’ is fine with me. note that nowhere in any of my responses to you do i call you stupid or even make reference to your intelligence. why? because i don’t think you’re unintelligent. i do however think you’re an asshole. might want to work on that bit.

          • Bacon Overlord

            Either don’t post or come up with something to prove your point. But don’t worry about how I express myself. I do just fine.

          • Joshua Kaplan

            how about if i post whatever i want, whenever i want and to whomever i want? okay? good. now that the ‘i’m gonna tell you what to do’ silliness is out of the way….i’ve proven my point several times, which was that you’re wrong. over and over again…wrong, wrong, wrong. your judgement’s of people are wrong, your insulting demeanor is wrong, your information is wrong. and no you don’t do just fine, unless to you ‘just fine’ is proving to the world how anti-social, nasty, and judgmental you are. if that’s your idea of ‘just fine’ then i assure you you are doing way better than fine.

          • Bacon Overlord

            And… This has to do with me being wrong… How?

            Look, it’s common sense. Drugs are bad for you, and if you smoke them they are bad for everyone around you.

            That’s the message you idiots are fighting with pointless posts full of diatribe and false information. The only one that posted something even close to a point was actually, inadvertently proving my point.

            You wouldn’t be so lost here if you didn’t have your head up your ass searching for your stash…

          • Joshua Kaplan

            haha if my stash was up ass i’d probably know it without having to look. it would of course be the good shit. SOME drugs are bad for you, some are simply altering. if your point is only second hand smoke, then i agree. you shouldn’t have to smell my weed. not because of second hand effects, which are entirely innocuous, but just because. on that note, i shouldn’t have to be exposed to insults, lines at the supermarket, diesel fumes, people that refuse to obey traffic laws, or taxes. we all gotta live here and all have a right to. big difference between you and me is that if i was smoking and you asked me to stop because the smoke was bothering you, i’d go elsewhere (unless you were a dick about it). if i told you you were being a caustic douche for no reason, would you stop? well, you haven’t so far.

          • Bacon Overlord

            You can’t die from lines at the supermarket or insults…. Any kind of smoke has particulates with carcinogenic properties. Hence, no matter how innocuous you claim them to be (which they aren’t) they can still affect your mind and health severely.

            As far as being a dick, that’s your opinion. If I came on here trying to be reasonable the potheads would think it was a free for all. Now they know their place and they understand that people aren’t stupid, we know the truth. It’s not a popular concept among smokers (of any kind) obviously.

  • john

    bacon here has clearly been studying the encyclopedia of drug stereotypes because that is all it knows.

    cannabis has been condemned and prohibited as being a problem not because it is harmful but because arbitrary moral decisions have decreed it to be so.
    alcohol is of proven danger to individual and societal health and the public is well aware of its dangers, yet use of this drug has not been accorded the same problem status as cannabis. as a society we don’t put people in cages for possessing alcohol and there are no barriers to purchasing what would amount to a lethal amount.

    the idea that our emotions aren’t accurate indicators of the truth can make some people mad as hell. clearly porkenstein here has some anger issues. anyone up fora a pig roast?

    bacon overlord, what’s that, a euphemism for chief of police, lord of the pigs?

    • Bacon Overlord

      I’m not your lord… Soooo, there you have it. But if you like I can lead you. Here, I tell you what. I’ll post something really, really obvious then you and the stoner gang can get mad and try to rebuke it with nothing more than angry posts questioning what I know about being stoned or who, in human history, actually abused drugs as a way to establish credibility. All while laughing at said attempts while I stick to the most basic principle of the whole article and point: drug abusers are idiots. There isn’t anything you can post to disprove this… Surely not by saying you’re a stoner… That just proves my point.

  • Dirk Digler

    One would be VERY surprised to learn how many congressmen, doctors, lawyers and police consume cannabis…Not saying it’s right or wrong but the whole criminalization of an indigenous plant originally sought out for it’s tensil strength for cordage is really kind of bizarre…
    But this tends to be more often the case than not in the US…
    We are a bunch of tightassed neurots….

    • Bacon Overlord

      Or we are a bunch of people that won’t submit to other people’s stupidity. I don’t choose to be stupid. Well, neither do most of the people responding to my posts. But, as you can see, they are anyway. But I can avoid THEIR stupidity by not having to breathe their second hand pot smoke. See how that works?

      • Jonny Crash

        lol agreed stupidity is not a choice you were born with it, and like the man on the stage said, you just cant fix stupid……

        • Bacon Overlord

          Lame. You could have just typed “I know you are, but what am I?” since it would have been less letters, the same juvenile message and just as made of champion stuff.

          • Jonny Crash

            what? i was agreeing with you about how one does not choose to be stupid…

  • Jeffrey Snyder

    cited the effects of poor regulation of alcohol and tobacco as evidence that legalizing a harmful substance would not deter younger members of society from using it…HEY, WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOCIETY HAS BEEN USING IT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND FUCK YOUNG PEOPLE. I HAVE SHIT I NEED TO DO AND I DON’T NEED THE WORDS YOUNG PEOPLE THROWN IN MY FACE BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE YOUNG PEOPLE. YOU MOTHERS FUCKERS HAVE CREATED A WORLD WHERE THE YOUNG PEOPLE OWN THE GOD DAMN DRUGS AND RUN THE GOD DAMN BUSINESS. IT’S ABOUT GOD DAMN TIME YOU PEOPLE TOOK YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASS AND LEGALIZED marijuana. IT’S LESS HARMFUL THAN WATER AND WITH ALL OF THE LIES THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TELLING US FOR DECADES I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE BRAIN PROBLEM AND COULD GIVE LESS A FUCK IF ALL OF THE KIDS DIE TODAY. I WANT THEM OUT OF MY FUCKING WAY SO I AS AN A ADULT CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I NEED TO DO. BECAUSE KIDS SEEM TO BE USED AS A STUMBLING BLOCK FOR LEGALIZATION I REALLY HOPE THEY DO ALL DIE TODAY. FUCK YOU FOR MAKING THEM THE STUMBLING BLOCK. CUSS MUCH? YES I DO MOTHER FUCKER

    • Bacon Overlord

      You make a very compelling point…. For keeping it illegal. Since, unfortunately, your stupidity is the norm for stoners. Lol.

      • Jonny Crash

        lol holy shit i would have to agree thats a classic stereotypical pothead, look at all the caps

        • Bacon Overlord

          Here it is! A statement by someone that knows what they are talking about when it comes to spotting stoners… I guess we can rest assured now that caps=stoner. Even though that wasn’t even what I was basing my statement on because that would be some stupid and judgmental shit. The stoner has spoken though.

          • Jonny Crash

            hey its another ignorant troll remark lol, just gotta do the troll thing even when someone agrees with you, classic troll BO

          • Bacon Overlord

            You can’t play both sides of the field. Pick one.

          • Jonny Crash

            so now its its illegal to agree one person is an idiot when they prove they are an idiot, wow you might as well join him you morons, they sai stoners are idiots for doing drugs, but, whats your excuse? are you naturally born idiot then?

  • Jonny Crash

    ““highly habit-forming product” my ass, i smoked for over 20 years and recently quit, its been over 6 months, if it was a highly habit-forming product then i wouldnt be able to quit so easily as i have an addictive personality, what it is is a needed product with so many aplications many corps would either have to envest n the industry or suffer huge losses such as big pharma

    • Bacon Overlord

      So, let’s recap. You intend to create credibility by explaining that you’ve been a drug abuser for 20 years? Lol. Dumbass.

      • Jonny Crash

        i havent “abused” anything for 20 years, i tried a medication, saw that it helped my condition and kept using it, we have a dictionary maybe you should try using it sometime

        • Bacon Overlord

          Lol. Wait, let me get you some tap shoes and a spotlight so you can entertain us better with your bullshit retraction.

          • Jonny Crash

            the only bullshit here is you and you selfrighteousness, funny how your the only one i see on here who believes the garbage thats been fed to the public for years/decades i bet you believe weed causes rape huh

          • Bacon Overlord

            Right, because that’s related to anything I typed… How?

            Oh wait.. Let me guess, you’re a stoner. Nevermind. No wonder you would think some stupid and unrelated crap like that, much less TYPE it. Haha.

            Thanks for proving all my points at once….

          • Jonny Crash

            what isnt related to your post? i figured that since you can spew BS about shit you have no clue about so can i and by the replies of yours i have seen i also figured with you believing every other lil propaganda out there you just had to believe that one too cause it sounds to me and im sure everyone else you have only ever watched the refer madness video created by backwater cult i mean church…

          • Bacon Overlord

            LOL.

  • dig-it

    wow, I have been reading all the comments and I just want to say to mr bacon that I am 51 years old. I was against marijuana for the first 29 years of my life. I worked with troubled kids in group homes for almost 18 years. I changed my mind about it after reading articles and studies on the subject. after I retired from semi-pro football I started smoking weed to help the pain in my joints. I only smoked at home in the evening after work. I have never smoke cigerettes and I rarely drink alchohol. I don’t smoke anymore because I just decided I didn’t want to. its pretty sad that you like to degrade people over this issue when there a lot more pressing problems in the world. you seem more worried that someone around you is smoking when we should be wondering where all these children are disappearing to. kids taking guns into the school and shooting everyone, people having women chained in the basement for years (Cleveland), people making bombs and blowing up buildings. so I have to say that I would rather have a pot smoker living next to me than some crazy psycho.

    • Bacon Overlord

      So… You’re a stoner. Was there some other point you wanted to make besides misusing pot for something it doesn’t help? I mean, it’s not PROVEN to help with anything. But there are rumors that it helps with seizures.

      Also, this thread isn’t about crazy psychos that blow up buildings or go on gun axing rampages… Is it? Try to stick to the topic.

  • Godzilla

    One thing is for sure… This drug testing needs attacked… Its worthless for legalization unless the TESTING for pot is stopped! YOU CAN DO LINES OF COKE AND BE CLEAN IN NO TIME…. 30+ days for smoking weed… I hate that nobody is mentioning this in their articles… I don’t care if they legalize it… I am tired of seeing good people get fired because they smoked a joint over the weekend…

    • Bacon Overlord

      One could argue that “good people” aren’t the ones smoking pot over the weekend. Considering those are exactly the people that corporation doesn’t want working there. Not only does that display an amazing lack of self control (especially when you work for a business that does drug testing) but it also indicates this person has some issues with drugs. Obviously not who they want working there.

  • John C…

    42 years ago Nixon had a two year study done that showed there were no problems with pot, that it should be controlled like alcohol.

    Nixon was enraged and he threw away the report, and said the damned hippies smoke the $hit, and I hates the hippies, and the hippies hate me, So he pushed through the DEA, and got congress to make pot a class one drug just like Methadrine, and Heroin, even though no one has ever died of and overdose from it. :o(

    We are now arresting over 800,000 people every year who spend collectively 400,000 man years every year in our jails nation wide where they spend the rest of their lives with FELLON hanging over their heads, forcing them into lives of destitution…

    Costing the American tax payers over $160 BILLION every year to incarcerate for simple possession, making America the largest police state in the world, where the police can confiscate everything you own because they found as little as a grass seed in your home…

    All for one man’s (Nixon’s) bigoted position against hippies who just wanted to know the truth about our government, instead of lies, and propaganda our government gives out as truth to our media :o(

    (These numbers are not my numbers, you can see them at the Office of the Attorney Generals at USA.gov)

    What an extreme waste of money, and lives to incarcerate millions of people to support at police state where we have 50% of the world prisoners when you count probation, 50% of the worlds military, and 50% of the worlds police who are now militarized to control us, and we are only 4% of the world’s population (310 million, out of 7.4 billion people world wide) is it any wonder why the stress levels in this country are so high…

    :o( John C. )o:

    • Bacon Overlord

      Spoken like a true pothead.

      “There’s nothing wrong with pot! Look at alcohol!”

      Seriously?

      Wait, let me sum up your block of text into something meaningful for this thread:

      “I want to smoke pot, so it should be legal.”

      There. You can use that instead. It’s as obvious and direct of a post as anyone could hope to read. Oh, and the answer is still, “no”.