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  1. Guest

    The category has gotten to be a dump. One ad might have a tactful coded prose while another just vile unfiltered belch out of the lower mind. I say for now simply create a drop down menu of user chosen and creator edited terms. A drop down homogenized sentence carries no overly seductive prose or vulgarity. What is most likley being objected to is the poor tasteless quality of the ads themselves so a solution here is for CL to have premade ads for purchase with customized contact info. Pay more for ads with words that the dropdowns don’t offer.

    If that doesn’t work just put the “All Seeing HAL Eye” pic on the page….

  2. Philippines Tourist

    I think PARENTS should be responsible for censoring what their children do online, and should insist they not have access to devices that could access “undesirable content”. Then, allow us Adults to decide for ourselves what website info we want.

    Look at Microsoft security as an example, no matter what they do, someone always has a crack or hack to the software. You keep making laws and someone will always find a way around them. If you don’t like porn, change the channel or visit another website. But why prevent ME from enjoying it should I desire to view it? Why?

    I don’t like wars and rumors of wars but am powerless to stop them. Spend your time stopping wars and leave Craigslist alone.

    • Guest

      The issue is the legality of the content. A part of that, aside from the hookers and selling humans, is child pornography.

      So, you want the freedom to view pics of little boys and girls being sodomized do you?

      Well, let me tell you very clearly; stopping pedophiles (like you?) is the greatest ‘war’ that a normal functioning, responsible adult could ever wage. So, CL and I suppose your personal computer should represent some very interesting battlegrounds.

  3. Guest

    Just another example of what is going on in this country today. Free speech is gone, I wonder what will be next? The USA is going to hell fast, and it’s a dam shame.

    • Guest

      Selling photographs of little kids being raped is not free speech.

  4. Guest

    They were making money from illegal activities which makes them digital pimps.

    All website owners are responsible for what they put online.

    If they were running ads selling heroin or other illegal substances there would not be such a fuss over this.

  5. Godfrey

    If you were a politician you will all do the same censoring stuff

  6. Guest

    Yes craigslist is responsible for what is being posted on their site as well as facebook, myspace and any other internet company is responsible for what there site is being used for. Craigslist adult site should be removed not just censored. If people want to find dates than craigslist should have a site where you interact with another person getting to know them and understand them before you go having sex with them. Like true.com or facebook dating. I think it is ludacris to have such access to such nudity and sexual content especially when the internet has a lot of children on it. This goes for every sexual and nudity site out there.

  7. Vladilyich

    Under no circumstances should the site owner be held responsible for the actions of the posters. The individual actions of the posters are their own, not the responsibility of the site. These attorney generals’ actions are reprehensible and they should be removed from any position of “authority:.

    • Guest

      What you say equates to not putting a drug dealer behind bars because he just supplies opportunity. Unfortunately, it makes no sense. A business that knowingly provides a means for illegal activity is by definition an accomplice to the crime at best. And that is exactly what the CL executive is – a group of accomplices to the child porn trade.

      CL should be seized, and the executive should be charged. The only problem with the Attorney General is that they didn’t go far enough; rather, they relied on the moral code of a group of people who already thought it was alright to have a big giant hand in raping children.

      Site owners (publishers) should be 100% responsible for monitoring the content on their Websites. Simply because the means of distribution is electronic doesn’t preclude any moral or legal responsibility. Further, most sites purport to own content once submitted, and if you own it, you own it. You’re responsible for it. You can’t stamp your foot and say you own it when it’s alright, then say “no, no – I’m not responsible” when it’s about hiring hookers or selling babies.

  8. John

    A person who owns an empty house where people illegally break in and use the house to do drugs is held responsible for what goes on in that house. I guess our war on drugs is conditioning us to accept such silliness. Craigslist does not charge for ads and in spite of allowing people to post free ads, Craigslist is supposed to pay the hundreds or thousands of people it would take to censor these ads. Just more silliness. More big brother BS.

  9. Most “empathetically”,This World thinks that there is a fine line. between that which is obscene and permissible in its eyes only.But I have to ask myself,what of ones Spirit;how does He perceive this question? God in His Infinite Wisdom, (and as a Christian today) clearly specifies; His is the ultimate answer.”For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh”.
    Matthew 12:34b.

    The blatant is obvious in all we speak in our “Words” one to another. In simple terms,what you speak of “What is spoken of your heart’s abundance comes out of your mouth.” The neglect of Craigslist to monitor itself according to basic laws of decency; borders on an obscenity to intelligent minds and hearts.

    Not that you might have expected, this viewpoint from any Christian today;but even one who will defend their God to the extreme (There being exceptions)! Come now
    Craigslist ,do you really think that someone would not defend their faith? How naive, or stupid; do you take us all for? You didn’t expect to not be challenged by one of Gods Elect did you? To foster this idea,puts all Christians into a box. To lump even one segment of a society into a minority is a travesty.Is there any doubt as to there being a God in Heaven above.Awareness in any form of media is a given,if you haven’t noticed! But like Him, He is always the giver of “love,without a respecter of persons”.
    As such myself,please forgive me my humanity! Yes! there are those who will rise up in defense of their God!

    In His love,

    lampwickke
    xxx

    • Yes, all Christians should be put in a box…Brainwashed Sheep

  10. If it was censored it would reborn under another name. I think they should be held accountable for what is posted on their site.. what I mean is someone should check those postings now and then and decide if it can remain or not. Craig list should show some responsibility what’s happening on their site.. so how can they be not innocent?

  11. Guest

    CraigsList.com made a name for itself early on for being completely vigilant and active against spammers and site spam.

    Yet now they are making a fuss when legitimate government representatives are looking for help in stopping child porn and vice online?

    Where are their values? It makes Craigslist look really bad from this perspective.

    Free speech is important and should be protected, but so are our children and families.

    There is a proper line somewhere. Albeit debatable, a line does exist and we all should be working hard to define it as best we can. To suggest that there is no line is foolish.

  12. Disgusted

    Yes, I think Craigslist should Censor….NO, Actually I think they should Remove the Adult listings completely. When did prostitution become legal? We are all trying to make a living, but where do we draw the line? It’s easy to turn away from things that aren’t right, but as a society, we have to put our foot down.

    • Alebrije

      If society is so civil and righteous why do we have prostitution all over the country? it’s easy to say that’s wrong and do nothing. at least that section provides important data that can be use as evidence and information to help us have a better understanding of why this is happening in our great society. Prostitution has been part of history and the very beginning of this nation.

      • Guest

        You are arguing prostitution which is an entirely different issue. In the real world, Craigslist is nothing more than a pimp that sells advertising.

  13. Cameralynns

    I agree with “Michael (WPN reader)…Best suggestion I’ve heard yet!!
    “Craigslist could partner with the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children to have volunteers peruse the listings and have the ability to “escalate” a listing to a Craigslist admin, who could then either forward on the information to law enforcement or simply remove offensive listings or those that violate the AUP.”

    If they did this, it would certainly discourage any listings made of this nature. The search should include any catagory that would be camouflage for such activities. Catch them in their own “net” so to speak. It is important that Craigs list discourage such listing/posts, to protect themselves from an entrapment clause when someone is caught.

    As far as the empty houses for rent or sale being used for drug trafficing, or being ransacked, that is the responsibility of the person who is posting. They should be keeping their eye on that property when they post. It is their responsibilty and Craigs list has no authority or responsibilty for the responses to ads or the negative results of such posts.

    I do feel it is the responsibilty of Craigs list to keep any illegal activity from being sold or promoted on their site, and actions should be made to stop or avoid such activity.

  14. JoAnn

    Someone posted that Craigslist should not be held responsible for the actions of their posters. I agree. But where is their sense of responsibility for their own actions? By allowing these posts they are allowing easy access to the immorality and unlawfulness of these posters not only by adults, but by children who are still in need good moral guidance. Would you allow these people to come into your own store to conduct their business? Craigslist has allowed them into their own storefront to conduct their business, and it is the responsibility of Craigslist to stand up for what lawful and morally acceptable in their own storefront. The fact that they are not doing that says something about the true lack of responsibility and good moral judgment of Craigslist. Or perhaps, like many others in business, money speaks louder to them than their own sense of responsibility to neighbor.

    • “By allowing these posts they are allowing easy access to the immorality and unlawfulness of these posters not only by adults, but by children who are still in need good moral guidance.”

      First of all, where are the adult parents of these children in need of good moral guidance?

      Second, and to the point, it also give law enforcement a big bulls-eye to target the perps but did they take advantage of it?

      Why try to shut down what could be one’s most valuable tool? Because they don’t understand how to use it or, because it made them look bad because it shows how ineffective they are at fighting crime?

      “Oh no, Craigslist is showing John Q how much crime there is out there that we can do little about, what should be do, do our jobs better or, make Craigslist not make us look like keystone cops anymore?”

      Guess which one they chose and was there any surprise?

  15. It’s typical that the Government would demand this. Censoring Craigslist is irresponsible at best. People should not be protected from themselves when they refuse to use common sense.

    If meeting someone off of the Internet:

    1. Bring a gun or other weapon. Forget about the law, just do it.
    2. DON’T go anywhere private.
    3. Don’t leave your drink anywhere.
    4. Know how to defend yourself.

    It’s not Craigslist’s responsibility to watch after people, and frankly, I’m disappointed that they caved and did what the Government told them to.

  16. Amy

    CL has done everything in its power to make sure these sex services do not touch anyone else in the community, including only letting you have one I.D. per IP addy, and making most of the forums they spammed the most private. They gave them their own section, where they are not bothering anybody that doesn’t want to be bothered.

    The only thing they can’t seem to stop is these people getting your email addy, and that’s sort of impossible, because you can only have one, and if you answer ANY ad on CL, they can get it.

    If you don’t want to be harrassed by them, stay out of the personals. Believe me, there are nothing but losers there anyway.

  17. Guest

    I am becoming increasingly bemused by the public at large believing they have a right to sensor what adults do and don’t do on craigslist and other such sites.

    Craigslist have a seperate clearly cautioned section for this material and in my opinion, if folk want to enter they do so with the knowledge that they will get what they get.

    I do not condone sensoring in any format for a website which requires an informed deliberate click on a known category. I do not however say the same about pop-up sites that lure viewers in tactically.

    In this free world we live in, we have a right to access, or not, any material we choose as consenting adults. Do not allow the fanatical minority to intrude upon this right.

    Would somebody kindly tell me when we became a dictator state?

  18. Twitter is the new Craigslist for escorts. Get over it.

  19. Craigslist User

    On many occasions, I’ve flagged and sent emails to Craigslist about people who were doing things intentionally to deceive people. Their response, NOTHING! I say, let them get what is coming to them. They don’t care about making important decisions to keep things honest online, now comes payback. Arrogance always come before a fall. They occur to me to be a very arrogant company who shows NO responsibility for their actions. Maybe the fall of Craigslist will be the rise of the fallen NEWSPAPER. At least with newsprint, we have the names and address of the people doing the crimes. Newspapers feel a sense of liability to what appears in the paper. The rest of us have to worry about what is on our websites. They should have to worry about the same things. THEY OWN THE SITE. FREEDOM OF SPEECH is about buying your own domain name and getting your message out there with a sense of responsibility. Anyone of us can buy a domain and do what they are doing, but we all fear being SUED! Why should they get away with it? Who are they to live above the laws of this great land.

  20. Why is it that in every other form of media, the author is responsible for what they publish, but online it’s considered the media’s responsibility? Of course Craigslist shouldn’t be legally bound to censor. To punish for that would be like fining state governments for things written on the walls of highway rest stops.

    They can CHOOSE to sensor if they want. That’s not a first ammendment issue that’s their right as the owner of the space.

    I hope you don’t think you can tell me what content I can put on my site, I’m getting pains just thinking about all of that laughter. However, I rent the space from GoDaddy, and if they decided they didn’t want my content on their server I would take my business elsewhere without thinking twice, because that’s their right.

    These days folks have some blurry ideas about ‘rights’ and ‘responsibilities’ and ‘legalities’ and what constitutes each. Don’t be naive. If you don’t know how to use the equipment, maybe you shouldn’t be on the playground. If you don’t like the sliding board, don’t use it.

    • Guest

      You have such valid points about choosing content. The problem is that CL is a conduit for some incredibly heinous crimes. It’s content is illegal (and despicable). And, yes – if the local newspaper was publishing copy that saw children sold into the sex trade, the newspaper would be stopped from publishing that copy. They’d most likely be shut down entirely.

      This isn’t reporting; this isn’t news. This is people profiting from illegal activity that it is fully, 100% aware of. Essentially, it makes CL an accomplice to these crimes. Referring to your metaphor, CL was the creepy dealer at the playground with the Econoline parked on the curb, and they got kicked out of the neighbourhood.

      I see one big difference between mainstream media and CL, though. In the mainstream, there are many publishers who would NOT knowingly allow this sort of content. In fact, most publishers and journalists I know would work with law enforcement. If I found out from law enforcement that content on one of my sites was of this nature, I’d hand over IPs and close the site down. The end. On CL it was a joke, and the censored block just proved that. Poor CL, I feel so badly for them. Their posts about selling babies and women and little boys and girls illegally aren’t allowed anymore. You know, try as I might, I don’t quite feel as badly for CL as I do for the children who are raped everyday because CL knowingly helped to make it happen.

      Being stopped from being a front for illegal activity is not censorship. The sorriest part of all this is that adults, the business people at CL had to be told to stop.

  21. ron

    There is no point in censorship people would just stop using it and go elsewhere. simple…
    better to leave as is & law enforcement agencies can watch, otherwise it will go underground.
    softly softly catchee monkey.

  22. King George

    Craig’s List could care less about scams or safety, they prove that on a regular basis. I vote for anything that puts Craig out of business. I saw an interview with him on CNN… he has about one ounce for brain and looks like he probably uses the prostitutes himself.

  23. It was a good idea until people started using it to murder others.

    It was a decision of the company to remove a section so that it would not be affiliated with such behavior of it’s members, not a censorship of free speech.

  24. Guest

    If the state’s AG spent more time learning about and using computers and maybe even, gasp, the Internet instead of having his sexetary sitting on his lap taking dictation, he might realize that his entire casebook could be maintained as simply as opening up Craigslist to the adult services section.

    Talk about shooting one’s self in the foot! D’Oh!

    Oh, maybe it was considered, in California, to violate criminals’ privacy by making it too easy to track them down?

  25. No that isn’t the way to go, as nobody likes to be monitored.

  26. Craigslist is another media accessible to the public and should do its duty in stopping illegal activities online although the individual poster should be culpable and warned to stop their postings. All social media should have their membership terms warning members about crimes, and use keywords with warnings to automatically flag postings that contain them. Social media such as Youtube, Facebook, Craigslist, etc. are like any other media tv, newsprint, radio, and should help law enforcers stop crime and not to perpetrate it.

  27. Guest

    what about sites like adcoast.com its the same thing exactly!

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