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  1. We as professionals and bloggers had foreseen the present crisis 4 yeas ago. Journlists saw nothing coming because journalists are like experts, they only deal with filtered media and VIP spheres. They don’t have time to deal with real life.

  2. News, like the definition of a journalist, is evolving. It’s alive and adapting with technology. There’s so much evidence of the role of bloggers, Twitter users, etc., to deny their role in the delivery of news is ludicrous.

  3. This is a pathetic move by Congress who now feels empowered by the Obama admin to implement “Change”!

    This is not the Change we need. This is how dictators are born. Crush and silence dissent.

  4. Craig Thomler

    Firstly try inverting the discussion – are all jounalists bloggers? No? If they are not then some form of qualitative difference must exist. Secondly consider where the line should be drawn – I do not think that a line on the basis of income, risk, education or similar factors are apripriate for differentiation. The more appropriate basis is impact – primary and derived. Jounalism is about reach – how many people you can influence with your reports, directly and indirectly, and possibly the quality of the people you can reach (a military journal only circulating to Generals has a small distribution but may have substantial impact on military strategy).

    Therefore any kind of measure of journalism by employment or income is flawed. There used to be, but is no longer, a diferentiation between bloggers and journalists by medium (online vs offline), but this has faded as well. As to differences in fact gathering or fact versus opinion versus lies -well the entire spectrum of possibilities exists for both practicising journalists and practising bloggers.

    So in the end I draw the conclusion that both groups – journalists and bloggers – are differentiated only because humans continue to like having an other to push back against “I am a respectable journalist, not some amateur blogger” or “I am a blogger free from the financisl influences of despicable media owners”.

    Face it guys we all are interested in news and events and making sense of them in a publicly accessible format (so others can benefit from or reflect on) our views.

    We need a new name that merges the groups – Blogalists or Journoggers.

    Then any attempts by government to differentiate the groups will be forced to go away.

    Cheers

    Craig
    Blogalist

  5. I think bloggers, good bloggers, are a cut above journalists. Many of us possess the freedom of creativity that many journalists don’t have which often lends more credibility to our content.

  6. I think a growing number of Americans are beginning to wonder if true jornalism really exists anymore. Listening to a talk show today, a local newspaper reporter was discussing views of socialism and why she did not like calling it that. Regardless of her personal views, what shocked me was when she admitted that she uses “spin” when she thinks readers will interpret facts a certain way. In other words, there is no room for “just the facts” and allowing the public to make up their mind.. the media will tell you what it means.

    NBC Nightly News went so far as to brag about it! In a recent commercial, Brian Williams is doing his voiceover on why you should trust NBC News.. “Its our job to tell you what this all means.”

    While the general public is not quite up to the level of trusting “bloggers” as news media, I do believe that in many ways you can find more facts from certain bloggers than you can mainstream news media. And that is why Congress only wants to acknowledge that mainstream media… they do a great job explaining (spinning) the news (not even the facts anymore) the way that Congress wants it told.

    • Of course bloggers can be considered journalists. Do you think that Journalist tell the complete truth or give the entire story? In most cases they tell half truths. The difference between a blogger and journalist is that often times the journalist work for a newspaper or network news center and journalist are more than often paid. Some bloggers get paid, but for the most part they don’t. A journalist in most cases are given a story and report from the facts in hand. Bloggers have the power to research just the same as journalists. Often times, journalist are not truthful and are only looking for that “big” story to give them the big break to be on some big time network like CNN or MSNBC.

  7. Journalists will all be bloggers before too long. Newspapers are dinosaurs on their way to extinction, and blogging will be the way that news is transmitted in the future. The media that sees that now and is transforming are the forms that will survive.

    • In these times of economic hardship, houses of worship have experienced a spiritual tidal wave – http://www.dailynews.com/religion

      Each week, two or three parishioners at West Valley Christian Church lose their jobs. Some have homes in foreclosure, while others have lost their nest eggs in the carnage of Wall Street.

  8. Not all journalist are bloggers, and not bloggers are journalists; however, there should be a reasonable common man test. Would the common person consider this blog an article of news or would they consider this blog a hobby full of useless info. Many bloggers do in fact earn their livelihood on their blog page being paid through subscriptions, advertisements and other means such as Chris Brogan.

    Freelancers should be hailed as journalist due to the fact there is not a corporate governing body editorializing unwanted segments out of the story. They have free reign to report as the see fit without bias.

  9. I agree with many of the sentiments here. Blogging will be the way the world is moving into the future. It seems obvious that a wider net of people blogging in all areas of the world will uncover more things and uncover them faster as time goes on. It is much like how video cameras are everywhere and its the news organization (journalists) that are buying the footage from the everday guy out there with a camera. You can’t beat large numbers.

  10. I personally do not like Matt Drudge’s “reporting”, but this language of the bill sounds like a personal attempt to exclude his rights and methodologies.

  11. I am not a journalist, but this article clear show that you were hit by your passion. Think of all those people that fought and are fighting for personal gun rights, and journalist who fought for ideological belief, that a citizen does not have the right to bare arms.

    Be careful of who you support, your enemies stay close to you!

    • As a nation, we are at a very scary time. We are weighing in on the importance of personal freedoms vs the state, on a regular basis, and doing so seriously.

      I am beginning to wonder how it came to be that our Senators and Congresspersons have reversed their allegiance to the country they love, with a symbolic visit to the graves of Witte and Paine for a loogie contest?

      Maybe we should call in the Chinese consultant for Google to oversee healthcare. I bet it would be efficient and the PR would make us all smile. Fulon Gong members are auto DNR recipients, but it is for the good of the country.

      Are you ready for the new world? Its not your enemies you have to worry about. It those that know more and care more about you than you do.

      At least the Shariah espoused by the Taliban, and Iran that we all seem to hate with such politically correctness, offer the choice of punishment or forgiveness to the abused in the matter of damages, even in murder cases. Was it morally superior to pay AIG off instead of making them pay while passing off the bill to the innocents and their offspring?

      I would rather see murderers hang at the hands of the mothers killed than let the bankers continue to get off scott free because Berknucklehead declares them indispensable to the economic needs of the country at the expense of the weak.

      Look at what Al Capone did for Chicagos Italian neighborhoods for crying out loud. What did he get? Oh yeah, he forgot to pay the wrong person, the IRS.

      Even if no company pays me to, I will loudly write, say, or make movies about it my views and disclose any information I can legally get my hands on, and the constitution protects many facets within this right. One of those rights is to extend the protection of the constitution to this material, IRREGARDLESS OF MY VOCATION. We left feudalism before we even arrived here,…at least I thought so.

      They can ban the protection of my writing if they wish. Officially sanctioned media is just another rewrite anyway, and no matter how they define it, the true journalist is the purveyor of their antithesis, and the exposer of their farce. I am a journalist, and a writer, and a human being, with a little common sense to boot.

      National thought consolidation is best done voluntarily in a democracy, dummies. You either have to change the system or change your tactics. Private media squashing has been the best mentor to revolution in all of history, contrary to the wishes of any all policy dictators that ever have been, and I am sure, ever will be.So if you love your cushy CEO kickbacks and government protection, stop rocking the boat. We’re mad about enough already.

      Recently, I have expected to hear our National Security team reveal their latest strategy to reduce our freedoms. I overheard them say: I’m sure that if they bought Iraq, they will buy this one:

      We can’t find Bin Laden, and we tried to get Lil Kim to talk, She won’t, we put her in jail, and now we know that they are in league together. Please send a supeona to Mininova.org for the list of all IP addresses where Lil Kim music files were uploaded from. They are obviously Al Qaeda sympathizers and must be brought in for questioning, without charge , citizen rights, or time limits of course.

      Now any blogger can be Martha Stewart.

      Blogger have become the poor tradesmen that stand outside the house of lords gaining the peoples attention, sympathy, and cash. We are not respectable, don’t care about the party line, and a new law must be passed, we must not be allowed to join the guilds without proper apprentice training. The soldiers will not protect their tents, or their clients at the market until they do so.

      Where is Jimmy Hoffa and Al Capone when you need them?

  12. I guess Bloggers themselves can call their selves as a Journalists because they shared their experiences and ideas just what journalists did.

  13. I dont agree with this article, because the blogger shared their experiences and ideas just like journalists.

  14. Blogger

    I believe bloggers should take credit just as much as journalists do. In the end, they struggle through the same tough work to deliver information to the public.

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  15. Alexis

    The only difference between journalists and bloggers is the platform. Internet vs. print.

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  16. Linda Brooks

    We have all read bloggers whose writing excellence far exceeds the work of mainstream “journalists”. I definitely do not agree with the House appendage to the bill which further defines a journalist as one whose writings provide their main source of income or monetary gain, and especially who are writing under a “supervisor, employer, parent” (?), etc. I believe writing for money and under the supervision of an employer are deterrents to true journalism. I also have no idea why “parent” is included in the verbiage – do they mean “parent company”? How would someone writing under an actual “parent” be receiving monetary rewards?
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  17. It’s amazing they say that. Journalists should be counted as equals.

  18. Guest

    Some bloggers blog for fun. But for journalists, it is their profession and livelihood. The definitions should be made clear and journalists should not be forced to reveal their sources.

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  19. Bloggers are one, who write their experiance instead of writing a repot as any journalist does. Both fields are respected in their own aspects. I think, bloggers(if not all,atleast some) should be given some respect as they deserve it.

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  20. udaiark

    I don’t Like to compare with anyone. Both are Providing news Informations, Articles, Pointing the issues, requesting for solutions giving solutions. Bloggers too doing Good Impression.

  21. That’s sad because many Journalist don’t even blog.

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  23. plz I agree with you iPeter! Also I think, if bloggers are “on par” with journalists, shouldn’t laws to protect them be about the same?

  24. I think bloggers, good bloggers, are a cut above journalists. thanks man.

    • Dr RC Anderson

      One of the main differences is that bloggers are not quieted, or censored by editors like journalists are. The editor of the paper decides if a story runs, or what is in the story, that is censorship.

      Many of the large newspapers are under the governments control, you can tell by the stories they print, and the way the stories are written versus other paper’s stories. With a blogger, he is able to tell it like he sees it, without government censorship, or censorship of any other kind. Bloggers are journalists, and if the government ever tries to make me reveal one of my sources I will spend my time in jail first. I believe in the first amendment, and also in the right to remain silent.

  25. i think bloggers r ppl who express themselves, whereas journalists r also ppl who express themselves and the world around..so ya..in a way, they r similar…

  26. Skyros

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  27. I think a Journalist should have to prove the things they say. If they quote “someone in high office”, that person should have to account for what they said. So if the matter gets to court, and the court deems it important, let the rule stands as it is today.

    On the other hand, I am against giving protection to one journalist above another. It goes against the the tradition of pamphleteering that gave birth to our country. A blogger is just an electronic pamphleteer.

    When our nation begins to protect the big guy more than the little guy, it will be time for the little guy to band together and wrest the power from the big…just like they did at the beginning of our country.

    Randy R Cox

  28. [quote]This is the Internet, many well respected “Scholars” are now self taught, and many achieved the necessary knowledge they required from their armchair, they did not need PhD supervisors (who can be patronizing at times), nor did they need any peer reviews in their field. The proof is in the reading, without turning it into an intentional pun, that is exactly what I meant. When you have blognalists (bloggers) being quoted and asked for their opinion by the New York Times, The Guardian, FT, Le Monde, Blabla Herald, Blabla Times… and many more as sources of authority, it’s about time to turn a new leaf or shall we say a new screen![/quote]

    Journalists are part of the traditional Media, Blognalists on the other hand are Blognalists (Bloggers) who achieved power through their blognal (blog) and managed to be a force to be reckoned with, capable of influencing opinion, even world opinion without never having been had any formal journalistic training from any institution BUT themselves and their own zest for self discipline, zeal and tenacity to become experts at what they speak about.

    More about blognalism (http://blognalists.com) as being the middle ground to settle this debate once and for all, it’s the definitive site which offers blognalists free blognals as well.

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