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Google and Yahoo may abandon their planned search advertising deal as early as next week.

According to the online edition of the Wall Street Journal, citing unnamed sources, reported that Google and Yahoo met with the Justice Department Thursday, and have not been able to reach an agreement to move forward on the deal.

Earlier this month Google and Yahoo agreed to put their search advertising deal on hold while Justice Department regulators reviewed the controversial partnership for antitrust violations.

Under the terms of the Google-Yahoo deal, Google would provide some of the advertising displayed when the Yahoo search engine is used. The two companies would share the revenue. The amount of advertising outsourced would be at the discretion of Yahoo.

Google has gone to great lengths to defend and explain the proposed deal with Yahoo. It has launched a page specifically dedicated to the "Facts about the deal" along with a number of other subcategories that argue in favor of such a deal.

Google, Yahoo Ad Deal Unlikely

Yahoo says the deal would generate between $250 to $800 million a year in additional revenue. Yahoo says it would use the cash to restructure and improve its search business in an effort to capture more users and increase search advertising sales.

Critics of the deal have worried that the agreement would lead to higher advertising prices and unfair competition.  The Association of National Retailers has voiced concern over the deal.

Combined Google and Yahoo had around 83 percent of the U.S. search market in August, according to comScore.
 

Google, Yahoo Ad Deal Unlikely
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  • http://yourlastwillandtestament.blogspot.com Joe

    IMHO, that puts the nail in Yang’s coffin.  The guy gave the cold shoulder to Microsoft with the rationale that he could make more money for the company by doing an ad deal with Google.  Guess he forgot to check on the antitrust implications.  The Yahoo board has no choice but to fire Yang and go back to Microsoft hat in hand to beg for a much lower price than Microsoft offered only months ago.  Hugely bad move for Yahoo.  But I think those of us who purchase online ads are better served by a Yahoo-Microsoft combination as a counterweight to the market dominance of Googe.

  • http://easyadshowplace.com Glenn

    Not good timing for yahoo,  they will definately have to beg microsoft to start up talks again

  • http://www.ceirysdesigner.net Nick

    That’s a pity as I was looking forward to the outcome of that.

  • http://manchesterunitedindonesia.blogspot.com Piter Sianipar

    About the system’s search, google and yahoo to-back decline. Yahoo does not display ads, while Google ads.

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    Good! Google is Gobbling up everything in site. It is UNNATURAL for a company to amass so much power– and still want more ??!@ are you kidding me. They are looking out for Google, not to be a better service for you and me. Google is getting more and more like the bully Microsoft got to be until they were swatted down. Now Microsoft limps around with it’s tail between it’s legs. Sometimes I miss the  ‘ole Microsoft.

    On anther note, how man jobs has Google displaced? Imean if I’m a newspaper advertising agency or soemthing, how has Google affected that? It’s not made it better I can assure you of that.  We need the power to go back to the people instead of google rnning the show. Try to come up with something snazzy and see if Google doesn’t try to out do it.

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  • http://st63.pochta.ru/Economy.htm st63

    Foodstuff against oil. Economic model of industrial war.

    Pay to generously hired worker in the summer and in the autumn, and in the winter and raise the price for the foodstuffs and then almost all paid money will return to you if you are the proprietor of stocks of the foodstuffs, storehouses and other warehouse equipment in the spring. It is history of the Middle Ages, the feudalism rich with artificial (contractual) wars of one next barons with others for the purpose of currency devaluation. Further only mathematics and modelling. Let’s accept the assumption, that the cost price of the Russian goods is caused by the low payment consisting of a foodstuff, the minimum expenses on clothes, the minimum consumption (light and gas, heat, water, household services in clearing of territory from dust), excluding expenses on applied science at the enterprises of not military industrial sector which is the basic manufacturer of the goods and the basic supplier of fixture, metal and other equipment owing to small profitableness (profitability). If you are the competitor of Russia in the world market and wish to supersede it from sales of military technics will lift the world price for the foodstuffs in 2, in 3, in 10 times and the price of the Russian goods will increase in as much time. To put it briefly, durabilities of each detail of the tank will compete, as disks ("usual plastic plates") various firms now compete. Durability of the kersey boot calculated for decade, and durability, ease, moistureproofness and the cost price of the American boot calculated for one season or even on one operation in connection with heroic death of the fighter will compete not. The price of the foreign goods (American, German) with low relative density of a consumer’s basket and the big expenses on applied science of not military sphere in this case practically will not change also they completely will supersede the Russian industrial output from the world market and then, to help the civil industry it is necessary to start up stocks of the currency for acquisition of new, constantly varying high technologies and opening. But to whom to give these technologies? Tens thousand to not state enterprises? How to give to the state currency to these enterprises that they have started up money only on modernisation? How many time to give and then to remit a debt (an epoch of Soviet time)? Perhaps we convert rouble that each such enterprise bought the foreign goods for the money and studied only on the failures. But then it will be necessary to level levels of a payment, the prices for essential commodities. Rouble converting – here a weak spot of the Russian industry. Reciprocal increase of the prices for oil, gas and light only will definitively excite social strata, then will increase their wages and in as much time the price of the Russian goods. If the model is true and considers laws of economic and industrial war of the states of 2008 2020 it is possible and to observe further increase of the prices for the foodstuffs while the prices for gasoline and gas will reach the ceiling much earlier as are already superseded by biological fuel in countries of Western Europe since 2007. Not qualified, nonmechanized, changeable work (and consequently deprived of possibility of conversion training on the basis of new technologies) immigrants can become a serious obstacle on a way of modernisation of work to building, agriculture and animal industries. Low paid work of millions in strictly certain fields of activity will cause not only processes of replacement of minds of these spheres, but also to impossibility of use of this labour in new proizvodstvah.1/06/2008 st63
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  • http://st63.pochta.ru/Economy.htm Yumagulov Salavat

    Myth about a commodity exchange of village equal in rights with a city. Or a myth about equation of the internal tovaro-monetary market.
    The sum of the prices of the goods of industrial production always is more than sum of the prices of the goods of an agricultural production. The total price volume of the industrial goods in any way means it is impossible to counterbalance by the agricultural goods. Then to compensate expenses for manufacture of not consumed goods to manufacturers it is necessary to leave on the world market.
    st63
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    Let each group of a colony contains M (i) the person and it makes the goods by M (i) *Z (m), group depending on the name.
    The sum of the prices of the goods of industrial production M (i) *Z (m) always is more than sum of the prices of the goods of agricultural production M (i) *Z (m). Proceeding from equivalence of the goods of a colony in a survival we come to conclusion, that the number of people working in industrial sector should be more than agricultural sector even in not developing colony. (Russia of 1922).

    Myth about a commodity exchange of village equal in rights with a city or a myth about equation of the internal tovaro-monetary market.

    Introduction.
    In 70 years to us it is persistent in high schools inspired about possibility of construction of economy of socialism in separately taken country or in separate group of the countries which name was ???, led by the USSR.
    This statement has been based on an equal commodity exchange between a city and village, that the monetary weight, printed to the governments urged to regulate a commodity exchange between a city and village, or between rural manufacturers and the city industry. The example of an exit from crisis and hunger after 1922 the next years ???? (New Economic policy) when to village have allowed to sell the rest of production after delivery in a natural kind of the food tax was often resulted. That this measure has allowed to normalise commodity-money relations in blocked by all countries of the world to the unique Bolshevist country towards the further development of the country. Tables of growth of manufacture of the industry in selective industries and agriculture without comparison with a population which as, has appeared were resulted, died out on Volga, Ukraine and in Urals Mountains. Comparisons became with the period of Civil War of 1918-1922, but did not become with 1913 (to an input of Russia in 1 world war). And only in the late eighties last century we have learnt that Russia only by 1937 has reached manufactures in agriculture of level of 1914. Only number the population did not coincide.
    It was spoken it is sensible nothing that if the city will make the goods more than it is necessary for village and all population – to ordinary consumers. Such moment was called as crisis of overproduction of the goods in the developed capitalist countries (and was called as a scourge of the imperialistic world) and such moment could not come in the socialism countries thanking a planned economy. And if such moment also could arise, it was called as the transition moment to the developed socialism and further to communism when the ordinary consumer could buy on the money more than the fallen in price goods and even "to choose or buy" so much, how many he will want. And that it did not fill the cases in tens pairs footwear or did not buy milk buckets to young young men the party problem of moral education of the future generation in the form of the slogan «… to everyone on reasonable requirement» was put. And such new generation "planned" overproduction of the goods was called as communism.
    The one who did not trust in the term of reasonable consumption appeared in 30? years 20?? centuries the enemy of the people, and in 60 years in an inactive part of the population which should be re-educated the next 20 years (Hrushcheva N.S.’s slogan) or Gorbachev M. S («to each family separate free apartment»). It is interesting, that Moscow continues to live under this slogan and in 2008.

    Let the separate childless colony, consisting of 100 young healthy men and women, has lodged on a separate desert island area S. It so was successfully divided on «I» different groups, that groups could will provide all a minimum of industrial and agricultural products, sufficient for a survival. It is clear, that if all of them together will start to search for meal or to try to make it separately the most part from them will be lost through pair days. Each such group contains M (i) the person and it makes the goods by M (i) *Z (m), group depending on the name. It is clear, that a total price of all goods, ???????? on number of a colony it should be equal to the salary or a monetary contentment of one member of a colony
    (1/I) * Σ M (i) *Z (m) = (the Salary of 1 person) in a case of not developing industry of a colony.
    Let’s notice, that for manufacture of the new goods in such colony and economy the new person or some person whom it is necessary to give birth and bring up or try to call new emigrants is necessary, promising to them equality in consumption.

    Let’s notice, that did not become any accent on what goods were made (an agricultural foodstuff or a fibre, a bone needle for sewing of clothes and protection against a cold). We will notice also, that the set of a food minimum is limited by names presently 20 kinds of natural products (wheat or rice, meat or fish, oil or fat, ….), and here the set of the goods of an industrial minimum much more the list agricultural and constantly increases from a society level of development. Therefore and during prehistoric times the primitive person of a tribe spent "savings" more for the "industrial" goods, than on a foodstuff unlike a monkey which will not organise any manufacture and only climbs trees in search of apples, bananas, other vegetables and fruit.  

    The sum of the prices of the goods of industrial production M (i) *Z (m) always is more than sum of the prices of the goods of agricultural production M (i) *Z (m). The total price volume of the industrial goods in any way means it is impossible to counterbalance by the agricultural goods.
    Proceeding from equivalence of the goods of a colony in a survival we come to conclusion, that the number of people working in industrial sector should be more than agricultural sector even in not developing colony. (Russia of 1922).

    From this inequality it is visible, that as a result of introduction of new technologies there can be an increase in release of products of an agricultural direction (foodstuff). It will result to consumption of these products only equal in rights, increase in physical weight of members of a colony as the most part of a foodstuff it is very difficult to store and presently. For distribution of a foodstuff equal in rights in a hungry colony the overwhelming majority "will vote" and at not consent this surplus will steal both in the morning and at night. The village will aspire to increase manufacture on all areas while all inhabitants of village are hungry and all country is hungry, and all surplus will be taken away on a voluntary basis of countrymen after the strengthened propagation about struggle against hunger.

    Also it is visible, that the total price volume of the industrial goods in any way cannot be counterbalanced by the agricultural goods.
    In too time progress in manufacture of the goods of "industrial" sector will lead only to that at separate progressing groups time will be released, free from work on all colony if they do not want to increase piece quantity of the goods.

    Or they will want to store the goods.
    Surplus of the industrial goods as a result of progress can lead at progressing group of people to the raised consumption of surplus of other goods, other progressing groups as a result of barter between them.

    Commodity-money relations in Russia of 1922 have been broken by the periods (?????????????) civil war, therefore it was required wild ??? (New economic policy) with food-cards for working class and new administrative elite. The village remained without cards on the industrial goods and died out or ran up in cities. Horse Bolshevist Russia should disappear from an earth card, but has gained the tractor invention, each of which has replaced one hundred horses and ten families of grain-growers.
    At last the moment will come when surplus of the industrial goods in separate sectors of economy will collect so many that it will not need to be consumed all consumers. Where to put such surplus? Certainly – to export to other countries and to exchange or for the new goods which are not made at, or to exchange for the goods which does not suffice for the best standard of living. A conclusion: the countries, stopped industrial output export are at survival level. And what to tell about the countries, stopped industrial production because of acts of nature, wars? It is the country which are not making an industrial output for a survival not only the state, but also its population. And its example is Tajikistan in January-February, 2008.

    st63

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    If they want competition and to dominate the search engine trade, they should lower their bids which will force others to do the same. Like eBay, they dominate the trade and dont need to have high daft prices to be rich. Sell cheaper and get more bsuinesses signing up and increasing their daily budget.

    My first site was closed after 6 months because google and yahoo cripled my finances which i think you will find that most startup online businesses have gone bust for the same reason.

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    My opinion is that the Google Yahoo deal is not legal based on Google’s historical anti-competitive business practices. Google made a deal with Echostar DISH Network which effectively excludes traditional TV advertising agencies from buying individual network air time over DISH satellite system.  I wonder if these secret deals will carry over to other media that Google may be involved with?  Additional anticompetitive activities could be part of the future Google business plan if this a valid report.  Other developments in media: Comcast excludes TV agencies from advertising their services over Comcast TV networks.  Is anyone aware of these developments in media?  Is anyone doing in-depth research anymore?  Isn’t this Restraint of Trade?  Can any media lawyers comment on this deal?  My fear is that these unethical activities will ultimately result in a contraction of commerce as media rates increase and opportunities decrease.

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