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  1. Hello,

    I have an adwords campaign running for some months now.

    About this issue I have to say that it’s not very dificult for me to see what’s fraud and what is not, or what shoud be considered PPC fraud:

    This campaign is GEO filtred, I can access both analytics and awstats and a few more trafic related analysis soft. on this server.

    For me, PPC fraud is clear because when the website gets a click marked “paid trafic” and it generates a ZERO seconds traffic or 1 second traffic… that is fraud.

    Why is it fraud? Because PPC is an “opt in” advertisement and not an interruption one. And as it is “OPT IN” it is considered that only potential customers would visit the site.

    What potential costumer makes a ZERO seconds visit to a site wich add he as chosen to click?
    If a site has 2000 visits and the average visit time is 2m30s, is there a reason to pay for 100 clicks that has generated ZERO seconds, or 1 second, 2 seconds?

    That is not real PPC that is adressed for POTENTIAL costumers only! -That is the real OPT IN point of view for a marketeer. That is what we the advertisees what to pay for: REAL POTENTIAL CLIENTS, REAL QUALITY TRAFFIC.

    But one might ask “and what about a 5 seconds visit or a 10 seconds visit?”. In my opinion PPC control should be based on a % of the sites visiting time average, I believe that 20% should be a good number for a 2 minute average, but that percentage shoud be adapted to each average, decreassing with bigger time averages. Even for a average visiting time of 2 minutes, those 20% should be 24 seconds: More than enough time to have a positive or negative feedback from a POTENTIAL customer.

    Lets just say that a 0 second, or little more than that, should be considered: FRAUD or “Websurfer mistake” that an Advertisee should not pay for.

    • Just to play devil’s advocate, a zero or low number of seconds visit to the site may also mean a poor match between the ad and the actual site … that is, if a lot of people click on the ad then see the landing page and immediately decide it’s not what they want to look at and immediately leave the site, it could also mean the ad didn’t accurately reflect what the site was about. So that isn’t necessarily an accurate way to determine that click fraud is occurring.

      • Pedro Duarte

        Nop… the add is very clear!
        What it means that there is low control on PPC quality! And… imediatly as you say is about 2 seconds! “Click and see” for what is human possible is a bit more than ZERO seconds don’t you agree?!

        One thing is to react as a human beeing another is to react like a script or a “machine”. Do you ever clicked on a advertisement and stay on that page for … Zero seconds?!

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  3. Clark Griswold

    I knew I had significant click fraud based on site visit duration. However, it was painfully clear when I was hiring several new employees late last year, and I interviewed 11 candidates from my competitors. 7 of them claimed (without me even asking) that their role included clicking on competiors ads online to drive costs up. After the week of interviews, I pulled all Google, MSN/Bing and Yahoo advertising. My budget was $1,000.00 USD per day per site, so I am far from a big fish. It was somewhat of a blessing, as I found programs that worked on a CPA (Cost Per Acquisition) basis, where I only pay if the customer buys. I turned the tables… Now, my employees selected high-$ keywords ($75-100 per click) and click on my competitors’ ads as a daily routine, and they are instructed to enter the site and click through a few pages. We only manage to get through 50-100 per day, but I figure it costs my competitors $20k-50k per week total. I am just happy to return the favor…

    As long as people spend money to advertise on Google, there is no reason for Google to tighten up click fraud.

    • Guest

      I understand and respect your position. But Google wouldn’t be around if adverts couldn’t generate a positive ROI on their daily budget. Here’s the deal: The one thing that Google doesn’t do is provide the users IP address that is clicking on your ad. However, they allow you to block IP addresses. Here’s the solution:

      Our company has been using http://www.doogleonduty.com for the past 9 months. Our AdWords campaign ROI started to decrease even though the CTRs continued to increase. We were convinced that click fraud was happening. When we pressed the issue with Google, our rep suggested http://www.doogleonduty.com. Withing 48 hours we blocked two click farms IP addresses that were costing us more than $200 per day. They actually turned out to be ex-employees. And we got Google to give us a credit based on the reports we generated by Doogle.

      • Paula Israel

        To the person that posted the info about Doogleonduty.com. Thank you, thank you, thank you x1000. When I read this thread last week I passed it onto our ppc team lead. He set up a free Doogleonduty account on Jan 20. Our Jan 21 report found 3 seperate users with unique IP addresses had clicked on our ppc ad 300+ times within 24 hours! We then went into our adwords settings and blocked the IP addresses reported by Doogleonduty.com. This service is fast and simple and pays for itself 100x over per day. Where have they been?

  4. it certainly would explain why Google opted to drop SEO and other web related services from its local search listings doesn’t it? Obviously my conspiracy theory lacks supporting evidence given I am not aware of what other types of listings Google elected to drop but we can’t be naive and believe that all things are not somehow tied to income production. Google is definitely not a non-profit company so it is possible that the only one concerned about click fraud and ppc is the party paying the bill.

    • Ralph

      Let me clear this up once and for all! Go to google stocks and then go to Yahoo stocks. Big difference! If you have an adwords account call google and ask to speak to someone regarding adwords or adsense. You will get a Major brush off! Google does make an attempt to fight click fraud you call it! That’s all they have to do by law! If an ad pays or cost an advertiser 30.00 per click Google gets about $29 of that the advertiser gets about 1.00 (Crime) ?? Who owns or controls the internet? Exactly no one! You, me or anyone can search type click or do just about anything you want on the internet. If you think that you can control clicks on your ads or detect so called fraud. Well then your losing more than just your click budget. Now your spending valuable time trying to fight and research the clicks. Out of let’s say 10 billion people. Can you or anyone else control how long someone stays on your site or who clicks. It’s called the Worl Wide Web for a reason. Internet laws are still in the works and will be forever. Because what may be a law in the US is not a law in Italy or India.

      Adjust the cost you are willing to pay per click. In your account settings.

      Competition! You must understand competition! As long as you are advertising you will have competition. It will cost you alot of money to be #1. there is no way to do it on a budget of $80 a day or so.

      Go for the natural or organic listing.

      I have had experience with this. I owned a service business and advertised for as long as I could. Customers clicked my competition clicked and idiots clicked and if someone forgot my number they would find the ad again (Because I wanted to be #1 ) and clicked it to get my phone number or re-check a price. People looking for work will click your ads and call you. Advetisement agencies will click the ad to call you and try to sell something else.

      Are we getting it yet?

      I have read many articles and I understand logic. The internet is not based on logic. It was started as a communication device and expanded on information. Now it’s all about advertising. It’s all about $$$ You would think someone is looking out for your best interest when you advertise with them. No. Nobody is. you need to watch your own money.

      In the US we have created new laws and do so every week it seems to make money. For instance Arizona That state is dying foreclosures and un employment are the highest ever.

      So this lovely state builds a light rail for millions and puts up the most photo radar cameras ever every 5 miles on the freeway. Flashing and sucking money from people every 31 seconds. Lots of $$$ Nothing is given back. Now they tax the food and are laying off law enforcement.

      What I’m trying to say here is. You will not win! Nobody really cares. I’m sorry but they don’t. You can’t boycott google now can ya like we used to do back in the day if we did not like something. We would boycott or strike or something whinney!

      I did make it with my business on google but it ran me almost 50% of my proffit on some jobs due to clicks. I got the jobs though. I tried some of those google ad professionals that claim a better rate per click and protection against fals clicks. I tried 5 to be exact. Funny I didn’t save anything because in the long run I had to pay the middle man and so did google.

      Why did google get rid of some programs. There is no money in it! Only more liablity. Google dosen’t want that. Otherwise they would need a full time staff that just went to court hearings all day and child molestors or hackers that get into your bank account would be a thing of the past.

      Did you know that google will let adsense domain owners advertise thier click site on google adwords. Really they do! It’s not a violation in fact they offer it!

      So if you didn’t believe anything I said or just don’t agree with my theories. Think about this one for a second. They help promote what you are all complaining about.

      Don’t spend your time complaining or writing anymore . If you do, just remeber while you are. Your competiton just got a call.

      Good luck…..

      PS Sorry about the writing I didn’t proof it or anything..

  5. Guest

    Google is crap the only thing they are interested in is taking your money per click. And if you do not pay they drop your PR. Every time my PR goes up they drop it down. Maybe it should have been called ripmeoff Google. I have not received not one customer from Google clicks the only one making money is Google

  6. Google ranking algorithm based on links creates an oligarchy of websites. Google wants this. So that others who do not appear in the search results are forced to pay Google for PPC. When you search Google, Google does not want you to search for a tshirt and land on a related affiliate website and repeat the search on THAT site for details. Google wants you to see the shirt ad as a PPC ad and buy after a PPC click only. This is why they fight affiliate websites. Each website’s own search capability poses a threat to Google in getting a share out of that TShirt sale!

  7. This is definitely a grave concern for advertisers. Hope google does something about these growing concerns, FAST. Thanks for sharing this great resource.

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