I found your post from DP forums and I’m in awe that Google is thinking of dropping PR. This puts my blog in such a better position, this is great!

Site owners are rightly result oriented. We’ve seen several times that it occurs very frequently that while searching, a page that appears on top of others in the SERP may have a much lower pagerank. Such pages have got higher search engine rankings although their pagerank is lower.

So, for a site owner whose pages appear higher in the SERP, there’s no point to try to get a higher pagerank. So, it gets forgotten as it’s been vanishing in the recent months and years.

PR ranking is only one of the values. But goolge removed it from the webmater tools and kept i t in toolbar , which made me a little confused. But it is a value of crawling, why they removed it and asked people don’t pay much attention to it ?

I would really like PR to be gone all together. I think it is useless, worthless, and I see a lot of sites that are complete garbage with PR and sites that are fantastic without.

Placing in search results has noting to do with quality, it has everything to do with how much money or time you are willing to spend getting links.

Google has turned the internet into a circus promising better search results and now the first pages of service searches are often filled with directories you pay to list on. They have ZERO content yet they rank in the top ten only because of traffic and or a contribution to Google.

The way I see it, the fight is fixed and even white hat SEO is still a game.

PR should be based solely on the content of a site. Not useless links you created from trading.

The issue I have with this comment is that sites with high page rank tend to rank higher than others for competitive terms. (try finding a site at number one in the financial field without page rank).
I also find that links from high page rank sites gets my site spidered a lot quicker.
It is also clear than one link for high page rank site (providing it is relevant) seems to make a far bigger difference than one without PR.

FOKM

In some cases, PageRank is very meaningful, such as for prestige, advertising and others. But I think the most important is the SERP. Sometimes Google fail to assess how important a website or page.

The whole reason behind PageRank is another excellent Google marketing plan. Google knows their customers better than any other on-line business. 90%+ of Google’s revenues are from those web site owners who pay most attention to the PageRank icon in Google’s Toolbar! Google purposely included this in their Toolbar AND as part of Google’s display of the Open Directory (dmoz) search results via Google. If Google didn’t benefit from all this PageRank hype, Google would have restricted third party Toolbars and other PageRank displaying sites and stupid PageRank widgets from querying their PageRank servers. Google let them do this so people could display PageRank on their Web pages, emails and other Toolbars and promote Google for free. Google is SUPER smart when it comes to knowing who their customers are and where they make their money and displaying PageRank was a fantastic idea!

Google is excellent in PR and Internet marketing. They employ hundreds of people that do nothing more than post to news sites, forums and anywhere else they can get their message out to those interested in marketing their web sites. Just have a look here:

http://www.webpronews.com/tag/seo

Not that this site is influenced by Google, but virtually every post in SEO is about Google. It’s a fact the people here are obsessed with Google and that was because of the excellent marketing of Google. Google is great at making sure their target market (all those reading these posts) sees Google in their face everywhere they go on the Net. And now that they are digging into the social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter, it’s clear they are after those bucks too! If they can’t get you as a customer (Adwords, Doubleclick and others), they’ll convince you to insert Adsense and/or Analytics on the free pages you generate using these services. Google is so darn smart they’ve got me talking about them too and that’s sick!

Well.
I don’t think so, that Google has dumped the page rank.
I got PR 2 today, as PR has been updated by Google.

Well this has certainly sparked some interest. I was just writing on my own blog about how pissed off I was about Google’s PR. There’s a site in a similar business to me. I looks just like a scanned business card. No useful information, zero content, crap graphics PR = 4.

My site I started in Flash and spent 1.5 years PR = 0. So I scrapped all my work in Flash and began from scratch with WordPress now a year later PR still = 0.

I can’t/won’t point my competition out but I think it’s unbelieveable!

http://www.caspianit.co.uk/increase-google-page-rank-its-official-i-now-hate-google

As a Search engine optimizer, I spend alot of time writing cotent for my site as well as aquiring good links. My attention is spent making sure my online company is ranking well. I do that by spending time watching the Google bar.

But when i am surfing the net i dont look at the page rank bar. I am just surfing for great content.
My online website design site has been experiencing great page rank since 1996 so if the green Google bar goes away I probably wont be hurt. But wow what a huge factor the removal will be to those that spend much time slaveing over the green bar….. Personally I dont think they will remove it.

Can i improve my page rank just by increase back links

Apart from the fact that it was poorly named at the outset ( should have been ‘Quality Score’ or similar) the main reason that they are now taking the ‘it don’t mean nothing’ approach is that PR is used to:

1) Decide ‘sold’ link value as in ‘Text link Ads’ et al – Google hates that and all link selling, leasing stuff. They are the only ones allowed to have textual link content for profit right?

2) See #1

Why Page rank can not be used as a guideline to show how ‘popular’ a site is to visitors – quality back links, loading speed, time spent on site etc. etc. and just saying it means nothing is both stupid and self-defeating on Google’s part.

The fact is that I will never knock a PR6 site off the top of the rankings for a search term phrase no matter how relevant my content is to the Googler’s typed in search phrase.

Just because a site is 10 years old and is listed in the ridiculous DMOZ directory, or Yahoo’s paid for directory is not a reson for it to rank higher than my theoretical competing page and should have no bearing on my content or where it ranks.

But it does, of course…

QED: The Google Algorithm is a joke!

How true that PR has little value, so take it with a grain of salt for minor observation in SEO.

My pagerank of 0 hasn’t affected my relatively new site, it’s ranked fairly well for several of my target keywords. I do agree though that pagerank can affect marketing and advertising opportunities.