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Why is Google Eliminating Local Results for SEOs?

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  1. So if you use the word “in” in your query for SEO or web design, you’ll see local results but if you leave it out you won’t!

    Why? Where is the sense in this?

  2. I think it’s crap to complain about this. I’m not here to have my ego stroked by seeing an icon in a map on the organic results page. In fact, I think having the local map 7 pack, 3 pack, whatever pack show up in the organic results for ANY keyword or phrase is pollution.

    So what if it doesn’t show up when it comes to SEO phrases? Besides – so many people game the local listings, it’s junk anyhow.

    Allow me to continue to show up in the top slot for the niche phrases I’m already showing up for, and in the top five for similar phrases. Keep the map off the organic results.

  3. Guest

    I have read through the article and the comments.

    It never ceases to amaze me the vast quantity of SEO/SEM/Web Designers who seem to think that Google should “work” for them. Google claims to want to serve up relevant results to the majority of its user’s the majority of the time. Perfectly acceptable.

    What is everyone complaining about? Sort your search strategies out, stay within guidelines given by the engines and hey what do you know, you stay in Google top pages and are listed in local. Or did I miss the point? Guess I’m simply not a professional web designer or SEO company trying to make money when actually they haven’t got a clue…

    • “Google claims to want to serve up relevant results…”

      Yeah, and what about the relevance of the searchers request to the results delivered? Nobody expects them to “work for us”.

      But it WOULD be nice if they’d work against the fly-by-nights, spammers and gamers, rather than the entire community!

  4. I think that is great that they removed local listings for SEO related phrases as ranking on them doesn’t really reflect how well a website is optimized, or the level of skill that the company’s ranking has at their ranking skills…. Goodness knows there are enough people are already ripping people off selling bunk SEO services. As for web design related queries I think they should keep the local listings as ranking on local doesn’t reflect the quality of the website designs to achieve that ranking (yes to a degree it does but I don’t want to argue this point), it just means most likely the person with the most clients linking to them will be at the top of the organic….

    • Since you think this is so great, can we assume that you’ll sign your next comment as “Guest IN Canada”?

      Localized listings are supposed to be just that! How would you like it if you suddenly found yourself in need of a dry cleaner or wanted to find a Thai restaurant where you live, and you ask for “dry cleaners Vancouver” and get steered to listings for nothing closer than 1,500 km? Wouldn’t make a lot of sense, would it? One could reasonably assume that you typed in Vancouver for a reason!

      I guess it fell apart at “reasonably”. That doesn’t seem to be Google’s watchword these days!

  5. It’s just Google flexing its muscle’s again!!

    Sack em go to Bing!!

  6. Roe

    Other than clients who are themselves Chinese or Indian, that is. We know their economies are growing very quickly and their people are becoming more tech savvy. Not to mention they outnumber us by about a combined 10-to-1.

    It’s really unlikely any American or European company is going to want to outsource their SEO efforts to China or India. But as their population and industries become more technically literate, it’s only a matter of time before SEO companies from those countries dominate the search results.

    Imagine that — some guy in Mumbai trying to convince you he’s not really in Mumbai the way that telemarketers and customer service reps do it now, only he’s responsible for writing content and otherwise optimizing your website! Ha!

  7. What an incomplete article… subtitle being “Why is Google Eliminating Local Results for SEOs?”, nowhere in the article is any reasoning for it mentioned/suggested – not even the G drone ‘explains’ it… Sigh… Perhaps a local search for an editor would help?

    So, ‘assuming’ that Evil G thinks/feels that local SEO results are ‘spammed’ (speaking of beating them at their own game…), they now throw out ‘legit’ companies (not for the first time…) – as mentioned in some comments. BUT, my dear local-spammers, if you include the word ‘in’, they will show your link again?

    Also, now that they weed out one big spam-industry, what will be the next non-local one? Graphic designers? Does this mean that translators should hire SEO’ers now to rank high ‘locally’? What about lawyers? Former Webpronews-writers?

    Poor writing – the article doesn’t answer its own question – yet manages to result in even more questions… let’s hope Mr. Crum is not asked to answer them.

    • Another stunning example of somebody shooting the messenger.

      GOOG isn’t evil… IN fact… GOOG sees no evil, hears no evil, and does, no evil.

      • … James – the messenger leaves many questions open, yet G is at the basis of it (why writing the article in the first place?).

        G is evil in the sense of not displaying legit, local companies – had you read all comments, you had noticed several examples (restaurants, a beauty salon) – that completely defeats its purpose – even after people paying for a listing – that ‘sounds’ evil to me (not knowing all details, of course).

        Perhaps G is not evil as a whole, but they definitely perform some evil actions – if you want to be really cynical you could ask if you can become a monopolist without being evil… A catchy slogan does not make me believe them – that is just naive.

        • Sorry… I thought you would understand the GOOG reference. It’s their stock name. Anyways… Look into Buddhism and the Three Wise Monkeys.

          I’m not going to say that this is accurate reporting, but what other conslusion can you jump to.

          The last time I heard of GOOG censoring the web was with paid links. Let the truth be known that 80% of Internet economics are controlled and owned by Google. Not you. Let’s hope everyone starts building stronger networks. jmo…

  8. While I believe working with the most brilliant specialists regardless of where they are physically located is the best strategy, how can anyone believe that when a person intentionally puts a location in a search query that their intention is anything other than to find results in that location?

    Excuse me for insisting that when I clearly indicate my intent I don’t want Google – or anyone else – deciding to ignore it.

  9. It’s really messed up and Google has to work with universal laws and control flaws on which tricky people take advantage.

  10. I have numerous clients who won’t work with someone they can’t meet. While many of my clients don’t care where I live, others do. If someone searches for a local SEO article writer, they expect to find one. Google should provide that information if the city name is in the query.

  11. Google is not the begin all and end all of search engine results! Also, users are not as loyal as Google may think. Could it be that Web Site Designers and Search Engine Optimizers really do know the secret of dominating the front pages of Google? Is this their way of getting rid of competition?

    They have the right to do just that; and users have the right to use another search engine. Good Luck Google, but you may have just completed your biggest oogle-google (oogle

  12. J Ramwsy

    The local listing seems to be hand managed by google employees and are totally corrupted hence it is better google do not show local listings with search.

    I have noticed that google employees are messing with my company local listing by changing the address and changing the biz classifications etc, so that my listings show much below competitors listings. I corrected the address 3-4 times every time it gets messed up after few days. jewgle is evil

    The Slogan for 2010 : : Joogle is Evil

  13. Google has always said it wants to provide the best search and part of that I believe is the users intent. How we phrase our searches plays a big part in that.

  14. 2 things on this subject.

    1. I don’t need Google to give me lame information that is hopelessly inaccurate, particularly with regard to the UK. If I want to find out where any particular business is located I can look on their website or refer to many of the available online directories such as yell.com or 192.com or others. And here’s a flash, I can even move away from my computer and check my “Local Pages” for related businesses in my area!

    2. If I am online, it’s probably safe to assume that I want an online result, not bricks and mortar.

    The space in the SERPS taken up by these listing is wasted. At least 3 or 4 qualifying results miss the first page because Google seems to fancy itself as a global geographical expert.

    • Pay Attention:

      61% of ALL online searches become offline sales. Source: Neilson Ratings

      54% of Americans have given up their phone books. When was the last time you used a phone book for something other then a booster seat?

    • I think you’re really missing the point.

      1 Google shows local Maps queries for literally every other type of business except SEOs and web designers.

      2 We are speaking about when people type in a location specific query i.e. “Houston web design”. If someone types in a local geographical location I think it’s safe to assume they are looking for a local business. So you are incorrect if someone types a local location specific query they are looking for someone local. Most consumers when hiring for services have a certain comfort level of knowing the person they are doing business with is local.

      “If I want to find out where any particular business is located I can look on their website or refer to many of the available online directories such as yell.com or 192.com or others.”

      We are speaking primarily in terms of when someone is searching for a business but don’t already have the website address or business name. Also I can tell most people do not use the directories you speak of. Most everyone uses Google these days. Period. I’m just sayin

  15. Thanks for the post and for sharing the info related to removal of local listing of web designers & seo.

  16. I have noticed this over the past couple of month. This really irritates me because I am a legitimate local business. I used to show up in maps for terms like “Houston SEO” but now no maps results show for that query. What gives? It amazes me that Google would show some kind of prejudice against SEOs and web designers.

  17. Our office’s physical address is outside the main business city for our marketing area. Searches in our town put our web design company on the map, while we had to rely on being number one in organic results for searches coming from the main business town which meant 10 other design firms would always be above us showing on the map. Now we are number one all the time. Google’s decision should help our business.

  18. It’s actually an interesting point for Google especially for SEO. if you want to spend your time doing SEO for your own services in your area then by removing local listings the organic listings that come up will represent those SEO firms that are doing their best optimization for their own services. It’s a catch22 of course bec. is it worth to spend more time doing marketing your own site for leads or marketing your clients’ sites. LaDezign has an office in Los Angeles and for sure wants local business for its web design and SEO services but is it willing to compete with thousands of companies for organic listings? good question we face each day.

  19. Over here in holland is the same thing. all SEO companies has been dropped from the results. That leave us with the good old direct sales approach.

    Bonner

    • It’s the same here in England. This industry is so competive and costly that losing out on local listings means we just have to work even harder. How long before other professions are dropped? (it makes you wonder)

  20. This decision by Google is the right one.

    If I am looking for a flower shop in Vancouver, chances are that I need a shop in the city core. If I am looking for an online service in the Vancouver area… does it matter if the provider is right downtown? Probably not.

    Using Vancouver as an example, the regional area is made up of Burnaby, Surrey, Langley, New Westminster, Richmond, Delta, Coquitlam, North and West Van. Users in all these municipalities will likely look for a ‘vancouver service’ so nuking the centrality of the local listings is the proper action.

    This move is actually a net benefit for designers and SEO companies that are doing their own optimization properly.

  21. Local map listings are for local businesses. If you are not a business with a local customer base then presumably you don’t add a local map listing.

    If a potential customer searches “web design” they want ANY web design business.

    If a potential customer searches “web design great yarmouth” then presumably they want a web designer in great yarmouth.

    It’s not complicated! If we have added a local map listing that is because we want to be found locally like any other business and expect to appear at the top of the search results like any other business would expect.

    Why therefore is Google deliberately trying to scupper any small locally based web design and SEO companies? It is discrimination if we cannot run our businesses in the same way as any other business in our area.

    Surely the point is if you have a local customer base you add a local map listing because you WANT to appear for your location results. National companies therefore would not add a local listing. Joel’s argument makes no sense at all and just who did they survey to come to this conclusion – where are these unbiased survey results? Are they published anywhere?

  22. Guest

    I’m going to throw my hat in the ring here. I haven’t noticed any difference in web design or SEO results when coupled with a city name (web design townname). I still get wads of listings all with local addresses in both the serps and on google maps.

    My concen is this. I’m in the burbs and have been optimizing for the big town name. I’m on page 2 in the big town listings, I don’t show at all in google maps under the big town, but I’m on the first page in google maps under the burb name, even though its not mentioned on the site except in the address.

    I wonder if optimizing for the big town while physically being in the burbs is what puts me on page 2 in the serps.

    Now that’s a question!!

    • I hope always to be in a position where derpan pages in google by using SEO

    • I hope always to be on the front page position on Google using SEO

  23. Although the internet is great, people still like to meet and have a cup of coffee with their xhosen supplier / web designer / SEO company.

    To not give them this choice, when they have it for all other services is bizarre.

    The life-blood of my company is from local searches; I am a small business, I can’t compete against the major international players.

    I realise that in this industry there are a lot of spammers out there, targeting local searches even when they are based several hundred miles away, but there has to be a fairer way than this.

  24. Guest

    I don’t think anyone can read anything of yours anywhere. It is unreadable.

  25. Are you psychic? You have to be as your writing so correctly fits all the questions I have in mind on this subject. I only entered a couple of words in the search results and I am very happy that your blog sprang up.

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