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  1. Thank you for this great post. I thought some of these questions would never be answered by Google. Maybe this is a sign of Google’s "loosening the lips?" Can we expect more questions to be answered?

    I understand the need to keep some information under wraps so we can’t "game" the system, but a few answers like these from time to time is nice.

    Great report, Jason!

    • Exactly what I was thinking! Now hopefully they keep spillin the beans..

  2.  

    A good article. What I learned was:
     
    Moderation in all things (except blog comments).
    Deliver unique and useful content.
    Avoid junk link directories and junk article directories. They can’t help and might hurt.
  3. Great to see Google open up a little but !!

    Regards,

     

  4. Good information.

    In a way it just confirms that Google is doing things pretyy reasonably. Moderation is good in SEO. Try to look at things from the perspective of the searcher, not from the perspective of the website owner.

    Do things in a manner that will keep the searcher happy and you will fall in line with what Google is trying to accomplish. That will become more important as Google gets better at reaching thier goals.

  5.  It’s nice that they are starting to take the time to open up…still foggy…but at least it’s something to work with for a change!

     

    Thanks Jason for sharing this!

     

    -R

  6. This seems a really great news article for us web masters.

    I think many of us realised that directories had been devalued, and I suspect DMOZ and yahoo have to a lesser degree had their links out devlaued somewhat.

    Also tells us something about what’s coming, so I’ll certainly be improving and limiting my own cholesterol directory, and hope other web masters will do the same with theirs.

    Thank you

  7.  Well done post; I, like many others, have been paying close attention to various influencial bloggers in the MMO niche over the past year and it is interesting to compare their different observations to the responses from the big G that you have covered here.  Some of the MMO people have definitely been on the money more than others this year.

  8. This article is a gift.  It has told me to always ask a question before I complete any optimization task.  The question is "By completing this task, will I be honoring Google’s desire to offer up the best results based on a search query, or am I just trying like everyone else, to game the system?"  I am going to assume Google is always at least 5 steps ahead of me in understanding the latest optimization trends and techniques and go with my gut instincts. 

  9. It is wonderful when we can get information straight from the horses mouth.

    I am interested in learning more about article submissions. How do we know what article directories are ligit and which ones are not? What about Video Articles?

    I am new at all of this and really want to get into Article marketing for my site. Did I miss the boat?

    open to suggestions (c:

    rafa

    • Hello Rafa.  For the most part I’d say that you could probably trust most authors of SEO books recommendations as to which article submission sites make most sense. I’ve compiled a bunch of them from a few books I’ve studied and put the whole list on my home page on the right hand side column, along with more than 100 other links to various useful Search Engine Optimization and web design related tools etc. I can’t list them all here, but if you take a look (click on my signature “Florida SEO” and it will take you to my site) you’ll see not only the link for each good reliable article submission site, but the page rank of the site itself.

      Articles are still useful for a few different reasons. Obviously they contain information that can help establish you as an expert in your field and they can help educate people. They also get picked up by people using them for WordSense ad sites to help them earn money – and you’ll get links back to your site whenever they do this legitimately and leave your own back link in place. And of course, you will also receive some more traffic from them – which in turn means that your Alexa traffic ranking will improve too.
  10. As much as I loved this interview I think the translations were truly what made this post lovable.  My favorite was the last one with article marketing, "yes".  I wasn’t too happy to hear about the death of article submission, as I obviously noticed diminishing returns from the practice but I still find it useful for traffic.

  11. I am in a storm of Realty SEO…nice to have somthing for them to read that is very real!

  12. Very interesting to know a bit inside about Google. I Google was very close and intransparent about their internal business. Although, I think this interview open just very little of them, but it’s a good start.

    • A good article. What I learned was:

      Moderation in all things (except blog comments).
      Deliver unique and useful content.
      Avoid junk link directories and junk article directories. They can

  13. Was indeed lloking for inforamtion like thsi and by going throught this piece of words content made mnay thing clear. Definitely theses updates on regualr basic will help us to followi teh SEO path and guidelines of Googel will boost to make everything free and fare.

  14. We can’t pay for links, we should consider maybe not submitting to directories (including dir.Yahoo, DMOZ or second tier directories), blog posts are ok and "translated" site text doesn’t have to rank as well if it’s not as relevant in the "other" languages etc.

    But it’s that last one that gets me most, because it happens even when English is the language.  I have sites in America that can’t get close to ranking anywhere near their top competition here in America, yet when I check the referral logs I see that they consistently come up on page one in Google in Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand above these identical web sites when they show up in their Google search engine results abroad!

    What I’m saying is that these are the identical sites I see ranked first here in America showing up in Google over there beneath my own sites.  So where is the relevance?

    One such site is for organic skin care products.  Do the English, Australians and New Zealanders have more skin problems or a greater need for skin care products than Americans?  Hardly!  And if so – then why is it that the American competition is also showing up over there – but ranked lower?  Skin care is skin care!

    I can make all kinds of guesses about alternative ranking algorythms here as opposed to overseas, about human beings working here at Google USA manually interfering, or that the sheer number of back-links counts only in America (over the actual content of the site) but not overseas,.  In any case, they’re all English speaking countries using Google as their search engine and their databases, since they show the same results, are the same databases as ours – only apparently they aren’t being filtered using the same algorythms or human imposed rules.

    I’d love for someone to ask Google to answer why that is.  I’m sure their answer would be very interesting to quite a few people.
     

  15. but the comments had me rolling…thanks!

  16. Make a website people like and google will rank you well.

    With Google making so many changes so frequently the days of ranking exploitations are dead.

    You’re better off focusing your time and money on making a great website.

    Great article !

  17. Good to see Google is emphasizing the user’s experience. I see too many sites trying to "game" the system and usability goes down. Creating good original content and maintaining site usability are still the core of the matter.

    Thanks for the clarifications.

    • I don’t think Search Engine Optimization is so much "gaming the system" as it is simply looking at the competition to see what they have done right, and then doing as much or more of the same and better if possible.  
      Surfing the web means the freedom to surf where you want, and when building a site and optimizing it, we want to be part of the party where the most people are, and as the old saying goes in business it’s all about “location, location, location, and in either case – for the surfer or the business, that happens to be Google’s first page.  

      To make an analogy, compare actual physical land-locked businesses and surfers at popular beaches to online businesses and web surfers constantly arriving on the first page of Google.  In either case we all know that in business the phrase is "Location, location, location".  So Google rules are to web based businesses and surfers what the Government laws and regulations are to business owners who have set up shop near the highly profitable tourist filled surf area beaches.  There are rules that you have to comply with or they shut you down.

      In Google it can happen in the blink of an eye.

      All the surfers dry off and head to their favorite restaurant and bar – only to find out that it’s not there anymore (it was there last night) but has been replaced by a not for profit library filled with encyclopedias about sea-food and beer, and the once popular restaurant now finds itself lost somewhere in the Adirondacks along with all the restaurant staff who still have families to support – and all because Google didn’t tell them that they were changing the rule about leaving full color flyers (links) at the county Tourism Information Bureau Office (online directories or whatever) when for the past four years it was perfectly fine to leave them there.

      So search engine optimization isn’t gaming the system so much as it is keeping or improving your position by knowing and observing the rules. 

      To make another analogy, knowing what the rules are and observing them so as not to be penalized is the same as keeping up with changes in the law to avoid punishment because, as the courts love to say: “ignorance of the law is no excuse”. 

      If the law permitting right turns on red were changed, and you no longer turned right on red to avoid getting a traffic ticket nobody would call it “gaming the system”.  People would call that “obeying the law”, “being smart”, and “driving responsibly”.

  18. Thanks for the great article! Here are my comments:

    Well that proves it .edu and .gov sites are no better than any other link, unless of course the site linking has more backlinks to it (thus more pagerank). I know that one has been a heated discussion in the past.

    Your translation of the question "I have reported sites that clearly have paid links…" s totally off. They were not saying that the sites you reported "are not necessarily violations of Google’s guidelines" rather they we saying that Google does not take direct action on each reported website instead they analysis what the issue is and come up with an algo that will detect this issue and handle it a proportionate. So your reports help their developers make the algos for the spam your reporting on.

    And WOW, so Google did not change the link value of directories. The why was everyone crying about directory links being de-valued?

    On the links from article sites, he did not mention that they were all de-valued. I believe there are only specific article sites that have been de-valued where as other ones remain valued because they do have quality content like ezinearticles.com for example.

  19. Anzo

    A man wanted to get into his work building, but he had forgotten his PIN

    Code. However he did remember five clues.

    These are what those clues were:
    1). The fifth number plus the third number equals to 14.
    2). The fourth number is one more than the second number.
    3). The first number is one less than twice the second number.
    4). The second number plus the third number equals to 10.
    5). The sum of ALL five numbers is 30.



    • Jason Lee Miller

      Dude, you up and brought math into my thread. You don’t know me very well. All posts are official no-math zones. My brain is tired just from reading that.

      I would like to know the answer though…just too lazy to care.

      :-)

    • Clue: First number must be odd since it is one less than a double.

      Answer: seven-four-six-five-eight

    • Don

      74658

  20. The biggest take away I think I recieved is to STOP submitting articles to ezinearticles.com and articlemarketer.com.

    Jason – Should I stop submitting articles?

     

    • Jason Lee Miller

      You know, I can’t say about those sites specifically. I think Google probably takes it on a case-by-case basis and you probably should too. If you’re getting benefit from it why stop? I think the emphasis was on low quality article directories and, apparently, syndication across multiple directories…the user-experience doesn’t seem great on those types of things, but I’m just one user. The only thing I can say, from a writer’s perspective, it’s usually not just THAT you are published, but WHERE you are published and how many people are able to access what you write…some write for the purity and love the obscurity and others actually want to be heard…for most it’s the latter. So the question is likely, are you being heard? If so, don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.

  21. Love the article and agree with many thats its nice to see google opening up more and sharing its tweeks!  It has told me to always ask a question before I complete any optimization task.  The question is "By completing this task, will I be honoring Google’s desire to offer up the best results based on a search query, or am I just trying like everyone else, to game the system?"  I am going to assume Google is always at least 5 steps ahead of me in understanding the latest optimization trends and techniques and go with my gut instincts. Will keep checking back to find out more information, thanx Google! – Sue

  22. samuel

    Hi!

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  23. Great article – what it really means is everything needs more time and effort but try telling clients that they need to spend more!

  24. How do you edit on this blog when you’ve made a typo?

  25. It would be great to get feedback like this every month – or at least every quarter!

    I am surprised they are devaluing the articles like that. Many SEO sites push the article submission as a great way to get links – which it can be if done right.  I suppose you need to publish on your own site first and let google find the content so you become the authority before submitting to any article publication sites.

    Thanks for publishing this info!

  26. Nice post.  Have you seen the latest from Google — they have created a 22 page search engine optimization guide.  I find it amazingly shocking that they are catering to the SEO community in such a manner and sharing as much information as they are.  The SEO guide is definitely well deserved and can help anyone focus on building the perfect (authority) website.  However, I wonder the motive behind Google revealing this information, even though it’s pretty common knowledge amongst ethical WhtieHat SEO, but it definitely raised my eyebrows because Google has until recently been tight lipped about any SEO tactics — aside from the Webmaster Guidelines and notably, Matt Cutts blog.

  27. Google seems to really be focusing on user experience – data which they are probably getting from Google Analytics. Seems safe to say that a variety of traffic sources, a high page view count and time on the site, and a low bounce rate would be among the most important factors.

    • I just thought of something.  When you mentioned Google Analytics, Google Ad Sense came to mind.  Lots of bloggers are using Ad Sense in their blogs to make money, and I’m wondering if blogs count as the highest percentage of Ad Sense carrying sites.  If so, then an innocent tweak by Google to their own algorythms that happens to make more potential revenue making Blog sites come up first on Google would accidentally make Google a whole lot more money.

  28. Thank you for making this information available and sharing with the Internet community.

  29. This is great information to know.  The bottom line is never a straight one in the online game, is it?

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