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		<title>AdSense Has A Yahoo Killing Secret</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google has been quietly inviting some websites to participate in a Display Advertising Network, which will place some very profitable CPM ads from Fortune 1000 companies on a publisher's site.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has been quietly inviting some websites to participate in a Display Advertising Network, which will place some very profitable CPM ads from Fortune 1000 companies on a publisher&#8217;s site.</p>
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<p>The rich will get richer if they can conform to the requirements of the Google Display Advertising Network. Entrepreneur <a href=http://www.johnchow.com/google's-top-secret-advertising-network/ class=bluelink>John Chow</a> wrote how Google has crafted this new service so it can offer &#8220;advertising to build a brand more than to sell a product.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chow claimed this effort would target those Fortune 1000 companies, and when it comes to branded display advertising, Yahoo has done well for quite some time on that, even as its contextual ads fell behind Google&#8217;s rise to prominence.</p>
<p>The only way to get in to Google&#8217;s new network is by invitation. One won&#8217;t find it in a Google search or in the help files for AdSense or AdWords. Accept the invitation, and Google will run display and video ads on the target site.</p>
<p>Chow discussed some of the specifics of the plan:</p>
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<div style=margin-left:10px;>While Google won&#8217;t tell normal AdSense publishers what the revenue split on their account is, they are much more open with the display network. As a matter fact, every display network members negotiates a flat CPM rate with Google. The contracts are one year long and publishers have to guarantee Google that they will provide a minimum amount of ad inventory each month. Publishers can serve more than the minimum amount and still receive the same CPM rate for the overage.</p>
<p>Reporting by the display network is currently via weekly emails from Google. The information is extremely limited. The only information shown is your weekly ad impressions and page views. Take that ad impression figure, multiply it by your CPM rate and you&#8217;ll have how much you made.</p></div>
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While Chow cannot say what he is making, he does note that a Display Network ad running on his site, <a href=http://www.thetechzone.com class=bluelink>The TechZone</a>, is his most profitable advertising property.</p>
<p>Pat McCarthy <a href=http://www.conversionrater.com/index.php/2006/11/28/googles-display-advertising-network-is-on-the-loose/ class=bluelink>blogged</a> about this at Conversion Rater, and took issue with the year-long contract requirement and the flat CPM rate for that period:</p>
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<div style=margin-left:10px;>It is possible the contract just holds the rate you agree on to be steady, which may sound good on the surface to the publisher, but actually can hurt you. If you lock in with Google at a $5 CPM for a year, what happens if you have advertisers coming to you willing to pay much more but you&#8217;re allocating inventory to Google to fulfill some contract?</p>
<p>&#8230;let&#8217;s say that&#8217;s a $5 CPM flat buy. That may again sound really nice to you as a publisher to have that guaranteed rate, but that allows Google to go sell your inventory at whatever price they want, and only give you a $5 CPM. What if they can sell it for a $10 CPM to the advertiser? Are you happy with a 50% revenue share? I wouldn&#8217;t be.</p></div>
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Supporting this effort will require a significant commitment from Google in terms of staffing a sales and marketing force. Considering their recently opened office in New York city dedicated to that purpose, it now looks like Google just wanted to have agents closer to their desired Display Network advertisers.</p>
<p>Google and Yahoo are both up in Pre-Market trading ahead of the opening bell on Wall Street. Today&#8217;s close should be interesting to see as investors begin to respond to this news.</p>
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		<title>Googles Display Advertising Network</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.johnchow.com/google%e2%80%99s-top-secret-advertising-network/" class="bluelink">Here it comes.</a></p>
<p>Being in the display ad business, I&#8217;ve long suspected that Google will make a bigger push into display advertising. Yes, they&#8217;ve had display advertising in the Adsense program for a couple of years now, but the results have never been very good for publishers or advertisers from what I&#8217;ve heard, and Google has never pushed it.</p>
<p>So as linked above, John Chow is reporting that he&#8217;s now part of what sounds like a beta invitation-only Google display network that is a negotiated CPM with Google and a year long contract. This is more interesting than it sounds for a couple of reasons:</p>
<p><b>1. A year long contract</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;d be nice to know more about what this means, but I&#8217;m guessing it may give Google some exclusive right to represent your inventory. This is really to Google&#8217;s advantage if that&#8217;s the case, and is definitely not a step towards what we preach at <a href="http://www.rightmedia.com/" class="bluelink">Right Media</a> about competition and working with multiple parties being the most beneficial to the publisher. It is possible the contract just holds the rate you agree on to be steady, which may sound good on the surface to the publisher, but actually can hurt you. If you lock in with Google at a $5 CPM for a year, what happens if you have advertisers coming to you willing to pay much more but you&#8217;re allocating inventory to Google to fulfill some contract? While I need more details, I don&#8217;t like the idea of a year long contract from a publisher point of view.</p>
<p><b>2. A Flat CPM</b></p>
<p>This means Google would be doing a guaranteed buy. So again let&#8217;s say that&#8217;s a $5 CPM flat buy. That may again sound really nice to you as a publisher to have that guaranteed rate, but that allows Google to go sell your inventory at whatever price they want, and only give you a $5 CPM. What if they can sell it for a $10 CPM to the advertiser? Are you happy with a 50% revenue share? I wouldn&#8217;t be. It also goes against how Google has normally worked in advertising with their pay per click roots.</p>
<p>What does this really mean though? These moves aren&#8217;t surprising. Display is a part of online advertising where Google has been weakest, and they are butting in to all forms of advertising. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if they make headway here, or if they fail like they have in some other areas outside of their core offerings (auctioning print ads). It does help explain them building up their New York offices and hiring more traditional media sales people. They also have a very large core of advertisers they work with through Adwords, so I don&#8217;t doubt they can get some advertisers on board.</p>
<p>It also moves them along in a trend we&#8217;re seeing with the bigger online companies starting to &#8220;rep&#8221; other companies. <a href="http://www.yahoo.com/" class="bluelink">Yahoo&#8217;s</a> sales team now sells ads for <a href="http://www.ebay.com/" class="bluelink">Ebay </a>as well as all the Yahoo properties, and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see Yahoo sell inventory across other publishers and networks in the future with their strong display sales force. <a href="http://www.msn.com/" class="bluelink">MSN </a>also now sells ads for <a href="http://www.facebook.com/" class="bluelink">Facebook </a>and they&#8217;ve openly said they&#8217;d like to start an advertising exchange.</p>
<p>Why no announcement though? Well, it could be because it&#8217;s so new. It could also be them sticking their toe in the water without jumping in and having it fail. Their was a lot of press about Google launching a beta CPA network months ago that shared some similar traits as this display network by being invitation only and publishers only getting email reports. There hasn&#8217;t been much said about that CPA network since. Was it a failure? Are they still building an interface? Why is Google beta testing the CPA network and the display network with no interface for publishers to use? Perhaps they aren&#8217;t so committed yet?</p>
<p>Directly repping premium inventory in this way can be a good business, but in some ways it would be a step back in advertising for Google. They created an automated machine with Adwords/Adsense that makes unbelievable profit, but repping premium inventory is a very manual business. Evidence of that would be negotiating CPMs with each publisher directly. Those types of things can make it harder to scale.</p>
<p>Spreading themselves in so many advertising areas could end up being genius for Google, or lead to their ultimate undoing. We just don&#8217;t know yet, and it will be interesting to watch.</p>
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