F-15 Silent Eagle Rejected by South Korea

    September 24, 2013
    Bennett Rieser
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Reuters via the CS Monitor reported today that South Korea has voted down a bid from Boeing to sell the country 60 F-15 Silent Eagles in favor of starting the process again to get a better fighter.

Although the F-15 was the only plane to fit the south Korean budget initially, the ruling party’s lawmakers and former military officials have all criticized the plane’s mediocre stealth effectiveness. Specifically, the AFP noted that the F-15 was unable to evade radar like an EADS Eurofighter Typhoon or a Lockheed Martin F-35A Joint Strike Fighter.

South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok, speaking about the need for better jets, said “Our air force thinks that we need combat capabilities in response to the latest trend of aerospace technology development centered around the fifth generation fighter jets and to provocations from North Korea.”

Lockheed Martin’s F-35A Joint Strike Fighter is the next jet South Korea is considering buying, although its advanced stealth capabilities were initially considered out of Seoul’s budget range. The F-35A JSF has been ordered by seven countries: Japan, Israel, Britain, Australia, Italy, Norway, and Turkey.

South Korea may take up to a year to fashion a budget that would include room for new fighters, but South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration, or DAPA (the organization responsible for assessing the fighters), said that it “will swiftly pursue the program again in order to minimize the vacuum in combat capabilities.”

In the meantime, Lockheed Martin plans to try and lower the costs of the F-35A in the wake of increased production. “We will continue to support the U.S. government in its offer of the F-35A to Korea,” a Lockheed Martin representative to South Korea said.

Boeing seems to be the loser of the deal, as the company spent out-of-pocket to develop the Silent Eagle variant of the F-15. While it’s not yet known whether Boeing will file suit, a DAPA official commented that South Korea had followed the rules regarding the bidding process.

[Image via a Boeing marketing video specifically created for the F-15 Silent Eagle on YouTube]

  • http://yahoo kernelsquid

    I know its business, and I know its capitalism, and I know companies deserve to make profit, but there is no way Boeing, Lockheed, or anyone else should be allowed to sell front line weapon systems to anyone. Leave some tech out of the best, and only let the U.S. get the best that is made. While some of our friends may not like this, if an ally is in real trouble we will get involved, and the edge we would hold might someday save U.S. lives.

    • Too Funny

      Believe me, they are not getting the top of the line fighters. It doesn’t work that way.

      The best thing the US can do in regards to saving US lives is to stay at home and stop fighting all these useless wars. Since 9/11, we have been constantly fighting and literally, nothing has changed in the world. Actually, everything has gotten worse.

      We need to make heroes out of those people that prevent wars as much as we do those people who fight them. In the end, that is the only way you really save lives.

    • Joe

      Nobody else outside U.S. gets top of the line stuff. They get the basic airframe… that’s it. The avionics, weapons, displays engines are all different in all variants and U.S. protects the interest of its domestic security with those top of the line systems available only in the U.S.

  • J Garza

    Hello! You suppose to Fly It! Not Push It! :)

  • Calvin

    Now you wonder why we are deficit in our capabilities. We are selling our secrets to our allies, but what if they “fall nto the wrong hands”? in the work place. Certainly secret technology should be for the USA Armed Forces. While we can’t be the global policeman all the time, at least we would still have superiority over the designs and delivery systems of our aircraft and other logistical systems in the threatre of war or conflict should we be called upon. Short and swift is the key to victory, not long or “hodgepodge” thinking about “exit strategies”..like we have been though for the past decade.

    • Hmm

      We outspend the entire rest of the world combined on defense. We also don’t give away our secrets. If they are selling these fighters, you can sure as heck believe they are outdated. This fighter however, is a proven combat fighter and will aid anyone who has them in region specific conflicts. They however are not really a threat to the US.

      The American people have no idea what the military has. It is just like the NSA spying program — that has been going on since the 1960s. Most Americans simply do not have a clue. This is old technology and the next generation of fighters are much more advanced.

      It doesn’t matter anyhow. If we get into another World War, there will not be any winners. I promise you that.

  • Darrel

    Sell them to North Korea, see what they say than.

  • Another Guest (from Australia)

    That is ludicrous. The F-35 Joke Still Flying is not the answer to meet the global threats from North Korea and it is certainly not a true 5th generation fighter.


    The F-35 aircraft designs will not meet specification nor the operational requirements laid down in the JSF JORD (Joint Operational Requirements Document) by significant degrees, noting that these operational requirements and resulting specifications, themselves, were predicated on the capabilities of reference threats from an era past and subsequently subjected to the illogical and deeply flawed process known as CAIV (Cost As and Independent Variable).

    The designs of all three JSF variants are presenting with critical single points of failure while even the most basic elements of aircraft design (e.g. weight, volume, aerodynamics, structures, thermal management, electrical power, etc.) will almost certainly end up in what Engineers call “Coffin Corner”.

    In essence, the unethical Thana Marketing strategy is using to sell the JSF, along with the acquisition malpractice of concurrency in not only development, the production and testing but the actual designs of the JSF variants, themselves, have resulted in the JSF marketeers writing cheques that the aircraft designs and JSF Program cannot honour.

    Kim Min-Seok quote: “Our air force thinks that we need combat capabilities in response to the latest trend of aerospace technology development centered around the fifth generation fighter jets and to provocations from North Korea,” Is a load of bullshit by drinking too much Kool-Aid.

    All the comments from the critics have made it very clear that will be a good idea in the estimation of the Air Force.

    Now the South Koreans are going to acquire the failed F-35 the worse off they are by eroding the air power which will make the RoKAF totally ineffective in the next 30 to 40 years.

    For more information of why the F-35 can’t cut it on the modern battlefield.


    I can imagine that Lockheed tried to encourage the defence ministry spokesman to buy this boondoggle that is useless to South Korea’s requirements.

    • Another Guest (from Australia)

      If you have the F-35s that just aren’t capable of dealing with the anti access & area denial threat environment, it just doesn’t do you any good of going ahead with the boondoggle and sink the money. Because the F-35 will be increasingly expensive aircraft that will fail the air defence program and this participation can’t keep the entire program affordable and certainly will not give the South Korea, the US and the allies a distinct advantage over Russia and China.

      A really dumb, mindless and idiotic idea to reject the F-15SE and claiming “The F-15 is not good enough”.

      The F-15’s proposal is cheaper than the F-35 and does offer certain advantages such as; more powerful APG-82 AESA radar, more capable IRST, longer endurance and greater selection of munitions clearance etc than the F-35.

      • Another Guest (from Australia)

        Any allied nation participating the failed Joke Still Flying programme are likely to be their own worst enemy by degrading their own air force than Russia and China.