What is The Google Sandbox Effect?

What is The Google Sandbox Effect?

By Jakob Jelling - Thu, 08/26/2004 - 3:07pm.

In the age of fair competition you may find it hard to believe that a search engine may hinder the appearance of a new website.

This is what is currently believed to be happening on more web servers today. Some programmers have viewed Google as uncomfortable to rank newer websites until they have proven their viability to exist for more than a period of "x" months. Thus the term "Sandbox Effect" applies to the idea that all new websites have their ratings placed in a holding tank until such time is deemed appropriate before a ranking can commence.

However the website is not hindered as much as the links that are reciprocated from other users. Newer links that are created are put on a "probationary" status until again they pickup in rank from other matured sites or placed directly by an ad campaign. The idea behind the hindrance is to prevent a fast ranking to occur on a new website. The usual holding period seems to be between 90 and 120 days before a site would start obtaining rank from reciprocal or back linking.

Some advice has been given to have companies you are going to reciprocate back add your link first to the website. This may help grandfather your site in, thus reducing the waiting time associated with "new" websites. People have noticed a 0 page rank when first signing up and receiving a bolstering 7 page ranking after 4 months. Why the delay? The fact is, that if people realized how easy it would be to get a high ranking, would that take away the credibility of the engine. It depends on whom you ask, but it does seem to be happening frequently to newer subscribers. Do not discontinue back linking, your rank will eventually appear.

Jakob Jelling is the founder of http://www.sitetube.com. Visit his website for the latest on planning, building, promoting and maintaining websites.

News Tags: SEO, Google, Website, HTTP, Sandbox

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Jakob Jelling is the founder of http://www.sitetube.com. Visit his website for the latest on planning, building, promoting and maintaining websites.

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Submitted by gco (WPN reader) on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 7:15pm.

Sandbox is about 3-9 months for competitive keywords.

My site is stilll in google sandbox. It has been six months since it was pur into sandbox. I saw a poll investigation on the net. It will take about 3-9 months for competitive keyword to walk out google sandbox effection. no any visitor from google to my site. homepage is in 950 position penalty.

Submitted by goc (WPN reader) on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 7:22pm.

guy, I serached your site

guy, I serached your site http://www.gamblingcityonline.com on google and yahoo. I found it was not in google sandbox. The keyword "online gambling list" ranked quite well on fist page of google and yahoo. I did not found any socalled 950 position penalty on your site. Congratulations, your site has been out of sandbox.

Submitted by Aztec (WPN reader) on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 5:55pm.

I can understand why... But it's frustrating!

1 - 2 Google searches per day... If we are lucky.

Just a quick browse around the net looking at a few other sites... Now I'm not a jealous person, but boy do I want just a little bit of their traffic.

You can't run a "people" site without.... People!

Damn Google, lol.

Still sit back and wait, thats what I read everywhere... Fair enough I knew it wouldn't happen overnight, but I think it's unfair that Google don't bother at all with new sites. Why not just send trial traffic every now and again, to send nothing at all would probably harm Google more than help it. How many people have just "given up" on websites, which could of been very good & successful if only they had a small flow of traffic in their early days.

Still... I'll wait.

http://www.mybabybe.com

Submitted by English Rose Kitchen (WPN reader) on Thu, 05/15/2008 - 7:45am.

Goodle Sandbox

I wonder if it's related to whether it's obviously a commercial site or not.

Mine isn't and despite only launching it 1 1/2 weeks ago, it ranks at 12 on google.com and around 4 on google.co.uk for the phrase "English Rose Kitchen", which is the main term people interested will be searching for.

Or maybe it's just such a rare thing to search for!

Submitted by theebooksbay (WPN reader) on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 8:28am.

Great Post!!

As for your post, I'm definitely sure my site (the Ebooks Bay) is still in the SandBox, and what can I do is just waiting. Thanks for your knowledge.

Submitted by Scotty (WPN reader) on Thu, 04/24/2008 - 5:01pm.

Sand Box

My website Best Secured Loan is sand boxed since 20 Jan 08 , google are just protecting the quality of Serps, finance is one of the hardest areas!! It took over over 6 months of link building to get my other site Self Cert Remortgages to the first page!! Takes time!

Submitted by gsg (WPN reader) on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 7:03pm.

Did it take six months for

Did it take six months for your site to get out of sand box? When did your sites start sandbox from your sitebuilding date?

Submitted by Guest (WPN reader) on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 3:06pm.

100+ uniques/day from G w/ PR0

Thanks everybody for a great thread. My site, <a href=http://www.lockpickguide.com target=_new>lockpickguide.com</a> is getting over 100 uniques a day from google, however I still have a PR0. It's been up since mid-December 2007, and traffic since early January has stayed pretty steady. Not ranked high for competitive keywords, but have top 10 on some less competitive ones. I suggest if you are still in the sandbox, optimize your site for as many non-competitive keywords as possible, then when you get ranked replace them with the competitive ones, that's what I will do.

Submitted by Nate Atkins (WPN reader) on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 1:27pm.

Now I understand

I am pretty new to the whole website ranking and optimization, and I have had my site (http://www.healthandfitnessfocus.com) up for about 2 months and it showed up on google a couple of times but then kept going further down the list. This is the first time i've heard of the sandbox effect but It's definately does make sense. I guess only time will tell.

Submitted by ioc (WPN reader) on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 6:34am.

Sandbox effects on my sites

I believe Google sandbox is real. For my instance, I got my site http://www.index-online-casino.com ranked well on Google at first two months. However, in the third months, all SERPs disappearred. It only been found in position 850-950 with very targeted phrases. I will be patient to wait for the release out of Google sandbox. Anyway, I don't live for Google. If there is not Google in the plant, I still have a heat-hart to develop my sites. Sandbox means nothing to me.

Submitted by adalho (WPN reader) on Wed, 04/09/2008 - 4:08pm.

I'm waiting

I am quite sure that my web (liriklagu.adalho.com) is also still in the sandbox.

Submitted by Andrew (WPN reader) on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 9:39am.

Still in the sandbox

i'm running a used cars portal for the UK, i'm also stuck with PR1 for a year, have got fed up of trying to market the site through the engines, working with online advertisement campaigns instead.

Submitted by Guest (WPN reader) on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 11:54am.

googlesandbox

you can find the key words 'sandboxed' by google easily..

i think my site (+18attention !) www.sexfreemovies.eu has been sandboxed because he use porn keywords as u must know! and its still sandboxed after 2 months, i will wait and strike back !

but i think all the most lucrative keywords used in googleadwords are part of the sandbox syndrom.

i mean that each time someone click on a keyword very popular and that someone has put a bet on it to sell advertising, google try to decrease newly concurrence on this word because his client paid the click on this word.

thats why every high value keywords have to be considered as a part of a risk of falling in the google sand box.

Plus, google want to prevent the new rise of new business model websites managed by pro that will gag the free web(or what left of it ) with natural referencement, by optimising all the website

google can control it, so why not do it ? but please tell us the truth about it!

Submitted by Manu (WPN reader) on Mon, 03/31/2008 - 5:02am.

Thank you

Thank you, now I understand my PR 0, since mid-December, if it was already preocupandome toward something wrong.

Submitted by kleo (WPN reader) on Wed, 03/12/2008 - 3:01pm.

Camping and Arthritis Websites

I've put up a nice camping and arthritis websites some time ago, added affiliate programs etc. and though i'll be sitting on money the next day :)

Nothing like that,i'm in the sandbox as well and have no idea how long it is going to take. Have nice back links etc. but still nothing. So i'm using other methods to get traffic to those websites for now.

Submitted by Zahir Shah (WPN reader) on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 12:55am.

yes mine is also ...

you are right, my Blank T-shirts site is till in the sand box i think, i have been woking for 3 months now and its position is still stuck

Submitted by yeman (WPN reader) on Sat, 03/08/2008 - 6:43pm.

happened to me too..

One of my sites (www.whathealth.com) was launched March 2004, just when the sandbox kicked in. It didn't seem to take long to get indexed and showing the SERPs - about 2 months down the line.

Submitted by Mel (WPN reader) on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 7:07am.

google sandbox

Its reassuring to hear that other people are having the same experiences as me! I'm new to all this and couldn't understand why I seemed to have dropped off the google radar even though I've spent the last month doing nothing but getting links to my site.

I've submitted my sitemap to google and it never seems to index any more of my pages. Yahoo seems to update itself a lot quicker, but I guess most people will use google instead.

It's all very frustrating when you're trying to set up a new business and actually make an income instead of watching your stock get dusty!

Mel

www.lovesexyhampers.com

Submitted by Jason Brown (WPN reader) on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 11:00pm.

Thanks

Nice work on this. Appreciate the insight for my Minnesota Divorce Attorneys website.

Submitted by Choppers (WPN reader) on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 11:31am.

Six month sandbox ?

I bought my domain all of four months ago, and still nothing on google. I've read elsewhere on a SEO website that it can take at least six months to get through the 'sandbox' now, even up to 12 months. My product name is fairly unique, ReportQL, with only eight results listed.

I've got keywords, titles and everything I should have, i've even submitted a site map to google.

www.reportql.co.uk

Submitted by David (WPN reader) on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 10:02am.

Casino sandbox

I have started a casino blog at Google's blogger, but it seems to be in the sandbox: http://casinobonusforliving.blogspot.com/

How long could it take to show up in the search results?

Submitted by J C (WPN reader) on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 4:07am.

Sandbox

I finally got out of the sandbox after 3 months. It sure is nice to have access to others thoughts on this and the promotion of our websites. Thanks for all the input.

www.computertutorforseniors.com

Submitted by J C (WPN reader) on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 4:06am.

Sandbox

I finally got out of the sandbox after 3 months. It sure is nice to have access to others thoughts on this and the promotion of our websites. Thanks for all the input.

Computer Tutor For Seniors

Submitted by Vintage Cars (WPN reader) on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 4:05am.

Frustrating Start

This sandbox things just doesn't make sense. This would definately make it very hard for someone to start a new site and see no result for at least 2 months. All your promotion ain't going to show and you just have to sit it out.

Submitted by Jessica (WPN reader) on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 8:26pm.

RE: Google Sandbox Effect

This is just an interesting observation I've made, but it seems that if I buy a domain name and put a site up, it usually gets sandboxed. BUT:

I had over 60 domains that I bought about 4 years ago. I finally finished websites for them last year. I uploaded them to the new server, then updated the DNS at the registrar, and forgot about them for a week.

Within a week, most of the new sites were indexed and cached in Google, although I had not created a single link to any of them yet, or submitted any of them to any other search engines.

I have duplicated this on a smaller scale, with one or two sites here and there. It's kind of freaking me out actually, as I usually test my websites before rolling them out, and a few times, Google has cached my latin filler. :)

Submitted by Guest (WPN reader) on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 5:05am.

Website Aging

The reason you are able to be ranked on the 60 sites that you have without any reciprocal linking is because your sites, while just developed are not considered new in the eyes of google. You have sites that are in essence 4 years old and google sees your sites as relevant which will give you a higher initial page ranking.

The moment you created your sites and they went live, you know have content that can be indexed. Additionally, you have the years of existence with your domain names so you are not a new site and will not have the label of a spam site.

Good luck with your projects!

Submitted by Guest (WPN reader) on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 1:33pm.

Sandboxed

We are definately sandboxed:

http://sextoysmegamall.com

Submitted by Sex Toys (WPN reader) on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 11:46am.

I was wondering!!!

This definitely has to be true. I have recently (in the past 2 years) started a few different websites, and all of them had difficulty gaining page rank in the beginning, even though I had many high quality pages linking to me.

Submitted by Provectin (WPN reader) on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 9:40pm.

Back Links

It's going to be hard asking companies to put a link to your site first before you put a link to theirs as yours is still new and has 0 PR. It's only possible if you already have some PR.

Submitted by Home Security Guide (WPN reader) on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 3:44am.

Agree Totally

Yeah, I agree. I have new sites that vanished and then begin to rank after 2-3 months. I guess every new sites will have to experience this.

Submitted by Detox Your Body (WPN reader) on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 2:51am.

It's true

I agree that the sandbox exist. I started 2 sites in dec 07 and one of them is about recipes for detox diet and G were bringing in traffics for other not so competitive keywords. As for the main keywords, they were ranked quite confortably for new sites and then dropped to the 50th-80th page and then of a sudden, they just disappeared into thin air even though they are still indexed. I'm still waiting for them to get out of the sandbox. Sigh.

Submitted by Guest (WPN reader) on Fri, 02/15/2008 - 2:28am.

Mortgage Loans

I too have seen the sandbox effect on my sites. the newest regarding mortgages seems to be taking longer to get out. my site on investing is showing some signs of being out of the sandbox after 2 or 3 months.

Submitted by Jill (WPN reader) on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 5:50pm.

sandbox

Hello,

How long does this sandbox effect last? Can you have a PR1 and still be in the sandbox? I seem to be stuck, and not quite sure what to do next.

Thanks

Submitted by tba (WPN reader) on Tue, 02/12/2008 - 8:59am.

Too quick to index?

I read somewhere else that Google puts the sandbox in place because it indexes things so fast to get them into their index so quick so people can find relevant information on their searches. But, if this sandbox malarky is in place, whats the point of indexing so quickly to get things into its greedy little index when they don't show up in searches? Perhaps Google need to stop messing about with stuff like this and index sites properly. My two pence added!
Cheers www.campingmole.co.uk

Submitted by Ruklisa (WPN reader) on Fri, 02/08/2008 - 1:42am.

Absolutely agreed

yes, i think my site is in the sandbox period, coz my site just go live since mid dec last year.

Submitted by johnporn (WPN reader) on Tue, 02/05/2008 - 5:51pm.

sandbox does exist..but not for all keywords/domain.

sandbox does exist..but not for all keywords.

I agree that on poor search value kaywords, the sandbox has less effect than on big kaywords ( like porn keywords, money,etc..), since i manage two porn websites (www.sexfreemovies.eu and www.sexpornmovies.eu) which are almost alike. But since the launch of the first site, he was on the 10th page during the 3 first weeks but still under construction. after one month, he was on the 86th page, after a work of optimisation, i didnt see it happen...so fast

The second one was still like the first one debutversion, and in the 8th page for the same keywords...(better?yes), but as soon as i changed it to be as optimised than the other one, he disappeared from google...

so i think google make a filter on some 'explicit' keywords and prefer a site that grows slowly and naturally ... as a flower.

Submitted by Tecnoscopio (WPN reader) on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 12:07am.

Maybe its true

Actually my blog http://www.tecnoscopio.com had a jump in Page Rank from nill to 3 and big traffic jump around month 2 so maybe its a sandbox effect or maybe it just takes time to index

Submitted by Webmaster Pat (WPN reader) on Mon, 02/11/2008 - 3:10pm.

Index Time

I'm not so sure that it needs time to index the site. Google sitemaps takes care of a lot of that now. After I submitted a sitemap for www.badgerstatewrestling.com, i could search it within a short time; however, I didnt receive a page rank until a couple months in.

I believe Google wants to see your site develop, gain links, build traffic...then you get a rank.

A google rank is earned, not given :-)

Submitted by Amit Mehta (WPN reader) on Fri, 01/25/2008 - 2:14am.

hi

thks you, i think this is real in tearm of google

http://www.uninsoft-technologies.com

Submitted by Cialis (WPN reader) on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 3:13am.

there is other sandbox classes?

There is sandbox for the page hosted at any servers?

Submitted by West Covina Criminal Attorney (WPN reader) on Sun, 12/23/2007 - 2:13pm.

Sandbox effect

There obviously is some kind of filter which many refer to as the sand box effect for newly built sites. However, some say this no longer exist. Thanks for this very informative article. It is very helpful. Our site http://www.westcovinacriminaldefenselawyer.com seems be doing ok but I think it what you exactly say, its a non competetive keyword.

Submitted by ahmed (WPN reader) on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 10:16am.

No problem with my website

i think if you didn't copy another website content you'll be out of the box
http://www.barmajh.com

Submitted by pinoynursingreviewer (WPN reader) on Sat, 12/01/2007 - 8:47pm.

This is quite true.. Waiting to confirm

I have been observing google for quite some time (as it is my favorite search engine). This has happened to one of my sites lately http://www.pinoynursingreview.com/ and I am still waiting for it to surface on google till now even with some backlinks already.

Any tips?

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Submitted by Box (WPN reader) on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 10:16am.

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Submitted by Fred (WPN reader) on Mon, 11/05/2007 - 12:54pm.

Sandbox Effect

Thank you for giving me an understanding of the sandbox effect! www.healthynails4u.com

Submitted by SEO Expert (WPN reader) on Tue, 10/16/2007 - 6:32pm.

Google Sandbox Truly Exist

Hello, thank you for posting this information that would be helpful for others, and i just want to confirm that the Google Sandbox is truly exist and it's a delaying filter applied to newly indexed websites which are targeting commercial or competitive keywords, all what you can in the time your website is sand boxed is to keep your search engine optimization as always and give it more time till it's recovered by Google which i find totally fair.

http://www.seo-proz.com
Search Engine Optimization

Submitted by Jocuri Barbie (WPN reader) on Tue, 10/16/2007 - 6:58am.

Sand box?

I dont understant. I have site which has about 7 month. In the last 4 day, google is senig me only 10 - 20 visitors. Till then google was sending me at least 300 visitors. What is wrong? I have over 5000 pages indexed by google. Ai have links that point ti my site. What is wrong? My site is http://www.wallpaperszone.eu

Submitted by SSY (WPN reader) on Sun, 10/14/2007 - 4:08am.

What if you develop a new

What if you develop a new website when google updates their page rank and backlinks does it automatically get a ranking. My website www.myhiphopclothing.com hasn't received a ranking other than 0 yet for about 2 in a half months now I thought it was because google didnt update yet.

Submitted by SPB (WPN reader) on Mon, 10/15/2007 - 5:36am.

Established site disappears

This sandbox thing is mystifying for me. How can you check to see if you are in it? Can you be put in it when already established? My site www.wiiuser.co.uk was gradually working it's way up the search ranks when suddenly it has completely disappeared from google. It is still visible in yahoo!

What is The Google Sandbox Effect?

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