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  1. News Corp. has a history of wanting to charge for content, so this is probably nothing more than a simple desire to control access to content and to find ways to leverage that content for increased revenue. I’m not sure that censorship is even an intended part of the equation. Step two likely includes blocking most or all content from anyone who hasn’t paid to see it.

  2. Guest

    Here is the thing that we all dance around online, the elephant in the Internet, if you will.

    You are a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. The Journal pays your salary, gives you an office, provides you benefits, etc. You write a great article, it goes in print, goes online, goes wherever. The Journal has paid you for your article, which is a representation of your effort, talent, experience, whathaveyou.

    The revenue that provides the pay for that reporter to write that article is generated from sales of the Journal, as well as what ads are on the originating site (The Wall Street Journal.com, or whatever).

    Whether or not News Corp or WSJ has found a way to generate revenue online is not the issue. Yes, that is a failure of foresight and ability to anticipate changes in print media, whatever.

    The point, the crux of the problem, if no revenue comes in to the originator, there is no impetus for continuing to pay people to create good content. You don’t have good journalists writing good articles, you don’t have trusted media names providing good content.

    Yeah, it’s great to have your work reprinted and copied and sent out through the Internet, but that notoriety and fame doesn’t pay the rent, or feed the cat, or put money into an IRA. At some point the people that create the work have to be properly and financially compensated for their work. Taking what someone else wrote and putting it on a separate site and charging ads to line your own pocket without kicking down to the entity that created the article is lame, and will ultimately drive good reporters out of work.

    It’s not evil to say that you want to be paid for your good work. It’s not evil to want to control the ways people distribute your work and then profit off of it without paying you for the rights.

    And as for the “right” to link, you don’t have a “right” to do anything on the Internet. As long as the companies on the Internet, be it Google or Bing or yes, even News Corp are private concerns, they can take their ball and go home. They don’t HAVE to let you do anything, they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, and if you don’t like it, you can go soak your head. Whether it is wise to do so is debatable, but that is their right. Charging to read articles will likely doom their business models moreso than it already has, but hey. Things change, media evolves, life goes on.

    The lesson is this, kids: You don’t get quality for free, or at least not for very long, but that’s not entirely the fault of the businesses that fail to capitalize on their resources or provide new avenues of revenue. You can’t just do something because there is no one around to stop you, whether that is breaking into an empty house or ripping someone’s hard work off.

    The easy allure of the Internet has engendered an entire generation of people to think they are entitled to take anything they want just because it is easy to take. You cannot take or use someones work without paying them for it, which, aside from the moral issues therein, because why should they bother to make any more of it?

    Can we just all agree that we don’t blame businesses for wanting to control their product, but let’s work towards away that the beauty of sharing information on the Internet shouldn’t suffer because of reactionary policies or shortsighted business models?

    It’s everyone’s Internet. Together, we can help it live up to its potential.

    • Larry S. Jackson

      I frequently criticize people who send anonomous chain e-mails with claims that so-and-so did such-and-such but don’t document their sources. In my rebuttal to those with whom I disagree, I cite my sources for my arguments and provide links to support my claims. Many of the arguments I have are with people who quote false claims that obviously originate from Fox News and other Ruppert Murdock owned media. I link to those false statements to accurately quote what the right-wing media has told its audience, then link to the facts that show the statements are untrue. Mr. Murdock doen’t like it when his media is proven to lie and deceive. If he is going to publish “the truth,” then we should be able to cite what was said by providing a link to the source for those who disbelieve anyone would have made such an outrageous statement.

      • It Can Only benefit all parties concerned when a link is created, any publicity is good publicity as the saying goes. If an interest is generated on a subject, or interest generated in Web-Site, then it is simply “Free Advertising” – and unless you don’t want undue attention brought to some unscrupulous activity, then everybody wins, Right? I personally welcome any extra visitors to my site, perhaps they would take advantage of what’s on offer, and download some Freebies, starting a fresh interest in 3D CGI Imagery and associated Products. “ProLithic-Jan 2010″

  3. Brian

    They don’t want you making money off of their hard work with out license? or authorization.

    You paint this picture as if News Corp doesn’t want me to email my friends about articles I find on their website. They want the right to determine the use of their content and that includes linking.

    The web is free, but we need to know we have the right to our content and what we will be protected.

    Leave it to the Brits to find a way to socialize our ideas.

  4. I feel that if anyone puts anything on the web that is open to all viewers, then people have the right to link to it. If it was to be paid for then the site owner should have it in a members area where you have to pay up front to view it. What’s next? How about putting your Sunday paper on the net for free then sueing everyone who comes to your site and reads it instead of buying the paper. Again if it is on the open internet then I should have the right to view it, link to it, and quote it. Now if I ran a paid site that my viewers had to pay for access, then followed a link that they had to pay to view, then that might be a different story.

  5. I don’t see it’s a bit issue if people are linking to your websites but what if they’re hijacking your articles and not acknowledging the source. Nobody wants to be in this situation.

  6. Smacks of all things Rupert, really.
    Can’t bear the thought readers might check another site first, huh?
    Or maybe the link originates from somewhere you’ll find a balanced, objective view …

  7. There are no ‘rights’ on the Internet, there are only rights in courts and governments. The Internet is all about technology. If aggregators want to link to content, there shouldn’t be any problem with that. Likewise, if the WSJ wants to use technology to block those incoming links, that’s OK too. It’s their choice, they control the server, and they can decide what traffic they will accept.

    That said, this has to be decided on the technological playing field, not in the courts. Attempting to sue over linking is stupid and wrong. If you want to protect your content, protect it. Hide it in a closet for all I care, but don’t complain when you make it public and someone else links to it.

    Journalism won’t die, but eventually there will be an equilibrium of sites that provide good news and allow external links as needed. News Corp hasn’t been particularly astute with their Internet policy so far, so I doubt they will be here in the long run.

    • Alain

      Do we want a free Internet?
      The Internet being free and open to all, anyone can choose to use the Internet as they please. Coercing someone into using it a certain way transforms it in a non-free environment.
      NewsNow made a choice, it should be respected and since they do not understand the power of linking (probably due to greed), they are doomed to disappear in the long run or at least grow at slower pace.

  8. Not sure what business model this fits in if any, but this sounds like a classic case of someone in charge putting their foot down, that does not understand how the internet works, or realizes the true potential of the internet. I’ve seen this many times. Plus, there are better ways of protecting copy than this!

  9. Guest

    Linking provides free advertisment value to news organizations and a like. A link directs viewers to their publication so why the fuss. If they wish to get greedy and charge for linking to their content, they will find their viewship impacted in a negative way.

  10. Guest

    I think Rupert Murdock is a greedy S.O.B. and wants to own, and control, all the news. He’s like that Bond villain that wants to start a war to sell more newspapers. He wanted to raise all his rates to the cable companies by nearly 300% this year. In fact, he could have been the model for that character. I say, boycott all his papers, his Fox channels and everything else he owns!!

    • Guest

      Actually, I’m pretty sure he WAS the model for that character, or some other bond character. I know some media mogul was definitely the model for a bond character.

  11. Rupert’s just trying to keep people from using his sites as a credible source for other people to base their arguments on. He’s doing the hard part of something everyone else has been saying should be the case for years now. Don’t blame him for trying to keep people from linking propaganda as their personal arguments from authority, he’s trying to be a good citizen.

  12. How do one define the worldwide web without links. They are the essence of the internet. They allow each person to surf, going from one web site to another following those virtual routes.
    If an institution or company with a website opened to the public does not want other websites to link it, then they are no longer part of the web and should just have a site in their intranet.
    Those companies take advantages of the free internet, getting traffic for free and now they want to sever the connection with the rest of the www?

  13. Yes, it’s public, it’s on the Internet, it should be open for linking. Why would someone put a website out there in the open and then object to a search engine or any other site linking to it? Makes no sense to me.

  14. Bogo

    Let us imagine a situation where everybody stops everybody from linking.
    No links to other sites at all. None.
    Impossible? Are you sure?
    What if “big players” manage to pass a law or a rule or whatever to protect their interests?
    Ok. It’s a bit far fetched. But on the other hand – who knows. Strangest things have happened.
    And then we all have to ask one another for a permission to link…
    ***
    My website had problems with others stealing material from it without a link or reference.
    I strongly support copyright and I’m against unauthorized publishing of someone else’s work.
    But is that an issue here? I don’t think there’s anyone who’s not aware of copyright.
    ***
    News aggregating sites are somewhat like search engines for news. They make profit in a similar way Google does. We could argue that they can’t exist without the “real” news companies, but there is obviously a demand for this.
    We all live fast and don’t have time to browse for news all day. We need it all in one place.
    ***
    I don’t like what’s started here – a process of “raising the walls”. One case is not a problem, but if this spreads it won’t be good.

  15. I accept with information: If an institution or company with a website opened to the public does not want other websites to link it, then they are no longer part of the web and should just have a site in their intranet.

    • Guest

      It is a library. and only some people are allowed ? The jewish people did not communicate with the Samaritan’s,, is it not more of the same ? selective not all inclusive

      Anyway,, i linked this domain nationofwaiters.com to a page of history on president jefferson who enslaved his own children because they were half caste . On a forum , i once in a while showed the link, and the admin called me a thief, and she never once back downed from her accusation, of me linking /redirecting my domain to a page of someone else.. i asked her dozens of times to prove how i am a thief, and she was never able to .. except she did toss me out of the forum.

  16. Precisely! Without going off on the meriad of “they’re doing it to us” alternatives … it should be noted the word “right” is not quite proper here. More rather — the ability to link is what the internet is all about. I’m currently running a news aggregating/syndicating website: specificnews.com ; without any investment (and still no profits) I’m utilizing the means of technology to achieve something which I wouldn’t have dreamed of achieving five years ago. I have the ability to link … until I get cut off…

    But here’s a real valid question: what sort of business strategy is it, to just cut someone off, who’s obviously very interested in what you have to offer (in this case — news)? Someone is holding back on some revealing details if you ask me, because every entrepreneurial bone in my body screams that if people are going through the trouble of linking to my site, than I should at least try to work something out with them, before cutting them off…

    ask those questions people!

  17. Spider Jerusalem

    Apparently you have all fallen for the PR blitz that NewsNow and others are spinning out at an incredible rate to confuse this debate. Or perhaps to create a debate where there is none.

    Here is the crux of the issue you suckers:

    NewsNow (and other aggregators) crawl Newspaper websites grabbing all content that isn’t behind a paywall. They create an index (some temporary, some not) categorise the content, create ‘alert’ services which meet their clients demands, send links to their clients (some send only headlines, some send snipets, some send full article text, and the really naughty one’s host the content themselves – Meltwater) and charge for said service.

    NewsCorp has apparently approached NewsNow (and others) in an attempt to get them to either stop this or share some of the profit. When they do not respond or give them two fingers what other option do they have other than to indicate scraping is not allowed by updating robots.txt?

    This is not about linking. This is about companies profiting by copying (an index is a copy regardless of how ‘temporary’ it is) full content not owned or written by them and not sharing a penny of that revenue with the content’s creator.

    Look inside any Newspaper website’s Ts&Cs and you will see very specific clauses which say it is illegal for others to use their content for commercial gain. Although not proven in UK courts (or US courts for that matter) this seems pretty straightforward.

    Back in your boxes please!

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