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Cross Of Jesus Found? Archaeologists Think So

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Archaeologists working on a dig in Turkey say they might have found a very important relic: a piece of the holy cross.

While working in the ruins of Balatlar Church, scientists say they discovered a small stone chest with two crosses carved into it. Inside was a splinter of wood which they believe may be one of the greatest finds ever made.

According to experts, the church–which was built in the year 660–could very well have been one of the final resting places of one of the four pieces of wood which were taken from the cross and sent to parts of Rome, Constantinople, and Turkey. Several other interesting finds have been made at the site, such as around 1,000 human skeletons, but this is by far the most important, according to excavation leader Professor Gülgün Köroğlu.

“We have found a holy thing in a chest. It is a piece of a cross, and we think it was [part of the cross on which Jesus was crucified]. This stone chest is very important to us. It has a history and is the most important artifact we have unearthed so far,” said Köroğlu.

The chest has been taken to a lab for testing and further examination, but scientists are hopeful that this find will yield answers to age-old questions.

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  • Jabbo Jones

    People will do & say anything to garner attention! Thousands of people were crucified on crosses…and I’m sure that they used over & over & over again…the same crosses. So, it’s highly unlikely, especially since they found a rock with a cross carved into it next to the piece of wood. Y’Shua (Jesus) never wore a cross/crucifix around his neck, nor any other jewelry. There was no religion called Christianity, so there would have been no religious symbols. Come on people…WAKE UP AND STOP ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO DECEIVE YOU! For all we know, the one they call Jesus could have been killed outside of a jewish merchant’s store by a Roman soldier who collected the reward money, and he died with his arms extended outward so they fabricated this whole ‘on the cross’ thing to fit the religious tenets that they were indoctrinating into the minds of the people….

    • Matthew

      COME ON PEOPLE! This first guy’s comment is a complete idiot.

    • http://yahoo jason neergard

      jabbo ur moslem or jewish or a no faith man?

    • DiligentDragon

      Interesting theory. Mine is somewhat different. If you study prehistory or art history, you begin to learn things. The things you do not learn, begin to fall into place.

      The bible says life began in the garden of Eden. Eden was said to reside in between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, where the rivers come together. Science has another name for this area, though much larger than the bible says Eden was. Science calls this place, Mesopotamia (Meaning the land between the rivers.) It is also referred to in science as “The Cradle of Civilization”. I will accept that.

      What if Eden did exist, but was not what the bible says it was? What if it was a reflection of man’s earliest memory of his existence? Civilization began in the far north of Mesopotamia with agriculture. Impressive stuff to be sure!

      Then kings and rulers begin to arise. These are the smart ones who know how to play on other people’s fears. At that time, people believed in a god, but did not know him. A person who had weather patterns figured out could say he spoke for god. When the obvious results of the weather came to pass, these people would be raised as divine beings or kings and rulers. (Probably why early man believed some kings to be gods.) To keep the populace in line, the ancient scriptures (Old Testament) were written.

      In the old Testament, God was vengeful and there was no way you were going to escape damnation. Laws were made to suit kings first, then the wealthy, then men, then animals as property, then women. As property or a commodity. The women, who also wanted to please god accepted this as god’s law and deemed themselves justified under god.

      Then people begin to wise up. “If we are forever damned anyway, then why try?” So to halt an uprising, the rulers create a prophesy of a messiah. Then a child is born to be the said messiah. Instead of promising retribution, he promises salvation in heaven. Well this sounds far godlier and compassionate than letting the people god professes to love die in a fiery hell. So they accept it. Then the people who create the messiah turn on him to make it more believable to the populace. Jesus is now a martyr. His words and cause live forever. The rest is fabrication and translation.

      Now this represents my own personal belief. I would never tell anyone that God does not exist. Because frankly, I do not know! This is only MY theory. I could be and probably am, completely wrong!

      • Jennifer

        Even with all of our modern equipment, we can barely predict tomorrow’s weather now. No one back then could say with 100% certainty that it would rain or a big storm would come. That means that the first time they missed (and they would miss at some point) then their credibility would be gone. Also we have records of whole peoples knowing what signs to look for to determine if a storm might or might not be coming. I don’t think any person would be so advanced with that information that they could interpret weather better than their fellow tribespeople.

        Now, a lot of peoples through the ages learned how to track and even predict the patterns of the stars and perhaps in early times could also predict eclipses. This would be information available to a group of people though, not one specific king.

      • Jennifer

        Interesting theory though

        • DiligentDragon

          Jennifer, I am a dummy! Those duplicate comments at the top are for you.

      • Pete

        Yes Diligent Dragon you are wrong. I sense you are educated as am I but you do not know or serve the risen savior who is Jesus Christ. Jesus warned of people like you who have been deceived and who want to deceive others. The old serpent deceived Eve then through her Adam. The bottom line is this. Choose this day whom you will serve!

        • DiligentDragon

          Yeah, ok. My beliefs come from studying. If God is truly out there, then he has little to do with your sacred book. I would advise you to keep God as you believe he would be. Not what the bible tells you he is. That book is so full of fairy tales mixed with elements of truth that it is hard to decipher what came from God and what came from man. We know the bible has a fair bit of proven history in it. Do not be fooled into thinking that because one part is proven then it is all truth. Jules Verne wrote about rockets and submarines a century before they were invented. But do you really think his stories are based on fact?

        • Philip

          Pete?

          Are you truly telling us that a snake (serpent) told a human woman to do something? And, are you saying a human who walked the Earth, died, and then came back to life? Do you also believe Cane was banished from the Garden of Eden and fled to the land of Nod where he married? Who did Cane marry? There were only 3 people on the face of the Earth. Adam, Eve and Cane (because he killed Able and this was before Seth). There was nobody to marry.
          I am having a hard time believing you are educated, Pete. Burning bushes do not talk. People on this Earth have never had the ability to walk on water. Snakes cannot talk. Trees do not, and have never once, held the secrets of life. None of this is possible. Be realistic. People are not ashamed of being nude. If that were true, all cultures around the world would be covered up. Not just those who are taught about the Bible.
          Believe in a higher being if that helps you cope with this horrible world, but be rational about it. The Bible is just stupid and people who live by it [completely] are a danger to any society. I have more morals than any Christian I know and I do not believe in a god or afterlife. I have nothing to lose when this is over, yet I am a very good person. What is your answer to that? I have had Christians ask me, “Where do you get your moral boundaries?” What kind of a question is that? Christians are so judgmental.

    • Linda

      You are stupid Jabbo Jones…

    • Steve

      Your comment would have more merit if the church in which this artifact was found had been built at the time of Christ’s death. But no, it was 600 years later. So, what we know is that this is something held in high esteem for hundreds of years. Apparently there is reliable documentation that pieces of the actual cross were sent to various places including turkey for preservation and/or veneration.

      I have no trouble accepting the idea that this could be a piece of THE cross. This in no way confirms nor denies the divinity of Jesus. From what I understand, there is as much documentation and verifiable information around to prove that Jesus really did exist and was crucified along the lines of what we’ve been told as there is for virtually anyone who has ever been born.

      Whether Jesus was a prophet, the son of God, a con-man, or self-deluded is an ongoing argument that won’t be solved by anyone by anyone on this forum.

      • charlene

        Steve, would you like to know who Jesus is? I know how you can find out first hand . Get down on your knee’s and close your eyes and cry out to Him and ask Him to show YOU who He is.Would you like to have a relationship with someone that loves you and will never leave you? I can tell you who Jesus is He is God Almighty and He is coming back for His people one day.You can deny Him or accept Him the choice is yours Steve .The Bible is true but not everyone want’s to live like the Bible say’s that’s why they come up with so many religions.I can tell you I know Jesus I have a personal relationship with Him and He’s alive and real and you can have that too if you want.I go to a Apostolic Pentecostal Church. Go tomorrow and see what He will do for you.

      • Pete

        Steve you don’t know Jesus!

    • Pete

      Your response is of a non believer. Jesus died on the cross for everyone. Your belief in this is called faith. Until you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ who is the Son of GOD. You have nothing. Satan is the deceiver here in you. You obviously do not know Jesus. He said no man comes to the father except through him. As far as the piece of the cross, who knows if this is real or not. It still does not change the fact that you are not saved. If you were you would not make those comments.

  • Wendy

    It wasn’t found next to a rock with a cross on it, it was inside a stone chest with 2 crosses carved on it. Big difference. It means that whoever put it there thought this particular splinter of wood was significant enough to preserve. Now as to whether it really was the cross Jesus was crucified on, I couldn’t say. But that it was believed to be from that cross is certainly a real possibility.

  • http://yahoo jason neergard

    Well this time it wasn’t inside of a slice of pizza or as depictions of the Virgin Mary have been found.

  • Sarah

    I’m an Atheist but wow… if they really found it… that’d be amazing. Wouldn’t change my religious views, but damn.

  • DiligentDragon

    I actually meant before people associated weather signs with the weather. A storm could have meant to them, an angry god. It would be very interesting to go back and just see for ourselves. See we know dinosaurs existed. We have axiomatic proof. The bible does not mention them because by the time it was written, they had been extinct and far under our feet becoming oil. People just did not know about them, so they were not mentioned. Lets face it, Animals that huge are at least worth a mention.

  • DiligentDragon

    I actually meant before people associated weather signs with the weather. A storm could have meant to them, an angry god. It would be very interesting to go back and just see for ourselves. See we know dinosaurs existed. We have axiomatic proof. The bible does not mention them because by the time it was written, they had been extinct and far under our feet becoming oil for the past 65,000,000 years. People just did not know about them, so they were not mentioned. Lets face it, Animals that huge are at least worth a mention.

  • Joe

    Sorry but the archeologist said the stone contained a piece of the cross or a saint’s bone, this is all speculation at this point and if anything hearing that they hope it’s a piece of a cross is a testament to religion in general.

  • Russ

    No matter where you stand on “religion”, Jesus Christ was crucified, as verifiable historically as many other historical facts. Whether you choose to do your own homework on both sides of the issue and make a spiritual decision or not, don’t confuse the two.

    That type of view says a lot about deniers……

  • paul preuss

    jesus wasn’t nailed to a cross not found in the bible roman’s used upright poles stakes never used crosses

    • Fred Jones

      you’re a very poor history student. Poles were just one option, and were just one early option

    • oldblindjohn

      You’re a Jehovahs Witness aren’t you.

    • Steve

      How can you authoritatively make such a statement? How do you know whether stakes were used or not? My guess is that you are relying on someone else’s opinion, but no facts at all.

      • Philip

        There are no ‘facts’ to any of this. It is all opinion, folklore and wishful thinking.

  • Mike

    huh? It’s just a stone fragment. So, uh, where’s the piece of the cross?

    • Steve

      Did you actually read the article? It said the stone thing was a little chest and there was a wood fragment inside it. So to answer your question, the piece of the cross was inside the stone chest.

      • Mel

        Reading is fundamental!

  • Will

    I believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. However I don’t believe there is a test that can say this piece of wood came from the cross Jesus was crucified on, even if it comes from that time period. How many people were crucified on crosses after all?

    • Steve

      You have a very good point. I would say that the reason the archeologists are confident has to do with the circumstances of the find and that obviously great care was taken with this. Apparently they know the approximate places where the original fragments were sent and this fits. But no, there is no test that can prove anything in this regard.

      One would think that there would be no interest in preserving fragments of wood from the crucifixions of other dudes though, which tends to emphasis the importance of this one.

    • John Kurpiel

      I agree with you Will, and personally I don’t see a benefit in finding the cross. What makes the cross so special is not the cross itself, but Jesus. I’m afraid that people would in way worship the cross (wood) and forget the real point is Jesus and what he did for us on the cross – not the cross itself

      • @John

        No one worships the wood. I hear that nonsense all the time.

        All the wood does is connect us with Christ. It is like a picture of a loved one. It helps us remember and helps us feel closer to the person.

  • http://webpronews cindy

    yes, jesus died on the cross and shed his blood to save us from hell, that our sins will be forgiven always.. buti know when they took jesus down off that cross and put him in the tomb, the body was all intact when they laid him down,so their were no body parts attached to the nails, so they say they found a half of an ankle bone attached to the nails? come on jesus body was laid, and his body rose three days later, so whatever they found attached to the nails it was not of jesus, now as far as a piece of the cross I don’t know, until they run test, but do you know how many people they put on crosses for justice or punishment in those days?

    • Phyllis Benaburger

      Actually, Jesus was “impaled” on a “torture stake”. The cross did not become a “Christian symbol until the 4th Century…..over 300 years AFTER

      • Phyllis Benaburger

        Sorry, I hit the wrong key! To continue..the cross came into use as a Christian symbol over 300 years AFTER Jesus’ death. Before that, it was a symbol used by pagans to represent THEIR triune gods. So, the fact that this relic has images of the cross on it proves that it dates after the 4th century of our Common Era. I’m a Bible student, and I also teach it for over 40 years.

        • cherry

          they did say that the church dated to 660. so yes its a tad after his death. Is it no at all possible that the box is newer than the artifact it holds. I have my great,great, great grandmas wedding ring in a box I bought last year.
          I’m not doubting your ….”education”…. just noticing your ability to notice the obvious flaw in your argument.

          • cherry

            sorry….not notice the flaw i mean

      • angelic

        exactly

      • John Kurpiel

        That is completely false. The cross was not a Christian symbol, nor was it the Jewish way to execute. Death on a cross was a Roman way to execute. That’s found in so much history its not even funny. Not sure where you got your information. Go and look up Tacitus, the most famous Roman historian who wrote shortly after the first century and said, “Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus” The gospels also say agree with Tacitus (who was anti-Christan) and say that Pontus Pilus sentenced Jesus to death, yet they specifically sat death on a cross. This would be very consistent withe times since that was the most popular means of execution by Romans. If you don’t believe in Jesus that is your choice, but don’t make up information and disregard actual history. Again, that statement by Tacitus, that agrees with what the gospels say, was written by Rome’s greatest historian and he certainly did not believe in Jesus and who Jesus claimed to be

  • http://ariel51.wordpress.com/ Michael J. Toro

    Charles Mackay on relics: “A grove of a hundred oaks would not have furnished all the wood sold in little morsels as remnants of the true cross; and the tears of Mary, if collected together, would have filled a cistern.”

  • louis

    I belive he is real just because you cant see hem you can fell hem with you .now if you don’t belive in hem how did any one get here ?

    • david

      uuuum, your parents had sex and you were born?

      • DiligentDragon

        BOOYAH!

  • http://webpronews Kenneth

    Why are you arguing and debating this article,If you believe in JESUS as I do you don’t need no proof of a cross or anything,because he would live on the inside of you.And to all you disbelievers try reading JOHN3:16 better yet It reads For GOD so loved the world,that HE gave His only begotten Son,that whoever believes in Him should not perish,but have eternal life.Call me what you want but I’m a believer,always.

  • david

    what is wrong with you people? the “man” you call jesus NEVER existed.. his entire story is EXACTLY the same as more than a dozen other made up god stories. (jupiter, dyonices, apollo etc. ) Your “witnesses” you claim that wrote about him (4 at best), of them 3 only referred to him as the “christus” which meant “holy one”, and was a common name during this period. and of those 3, only a few sentences AT BEST were mentioned. The 4th, is now proven to be a fraud. Sorry…but you HAVE NO PROOF OF ANYTHING…
    When will you realize the entire story of “jesus christ”, and all other gods like him, is all based in astrology? 12 desiples? 12 zodiac symbols. he is the son wearing a crown of thorns? kinda like the SUN with rays shooting outward? three wise men (or kings) followed the north star to his birth on dec. 25? the sun starts to rise from its lowest point on the winter horizion on or near this date, and aligns up with the brightest star in the sky, AND orions belt, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN SINCE ANCIENT TIMES AS… (wait for it….) the 3 KINGS????
    So, like i said…the dude NEVER EXISTED….but you can keep telling yourself you believe in your imaginary friend…

    • haley

      wow…..this is ridiculous and immature. but whatever. like you seriously sit there and tell people they are stupid basically just for having their beliefs. who cares even if he isn’t real that’s what BELIEF is. even if he isn’t real people are still allowed to believe he is.

      • Rus

        sure people are allowed to believe he is real… but are they allowed to kill you for not believing he’s real? because that is the problem we have with your insane beliefs… People who believe in this stuff don’t know how to draw the line separating the reality and their personal beliefs. Instead they try to enforce their beliefs upon everyone else and this is how most conflicts on this planet begin

    • cherry

      even the Muslims believed he existed, its his divinity they doubt. they believe he was another profit like Mohamid. Holy if not divine.

    • Leon

      David, you are a sad little man. I would like to be there one day when you die, and you open your eyes again. Just think where that would be?! Then it will be too late!! Scary

    • Rus

      Dude, it’s useless.. believe me. The fear of death and ignorance in these people are much more powerful than your common sense…

    • http://www.webpronews.com Ms. Ty

      I suggest that you look a little harder sir, as currently you look like an idiot–in the true sense of the word! You are truly showing your ignorance of the subject. Dr. Simon Greenleaf disagrees with you & anyone else who is lacking critical thinking skills, ever heard of him? “Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the “myth” of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated:

      “it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . .”
      (Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

      SORRY chief, In order for this learned former agnostic/atheist to come to this conclusion using every rule of evidence that we still use & hold as truth to this day—JESUS DID EXIST! At the very least, He was a REAL MAN WHO WALKED THIS EARTH!

      As for your “counterfeit” theory of the origin of the “myth”, you are wrong as two left shoes on that one too! If you would like to discuss the matter further, READ A BOOK! Start w/”A Case For Christ”, by author/former atheist/3rd best legal mind in this country, Lee Strobel.

      Look, the only reason I’m even addressing you is in hopes that you will be saved from the wrath to come & eternal hell! If I’m wrong–no harm no foul, we live, die & that’s it. But if you are wrong, you have much to fear my friend. Good Luck!

    • http://www.webpronews.com Ms. Ty

      David, how old are you?

    • John Kurpiel

      David, I’m not saying this to mock you, but what you said shows that you are totally ignorant to this area of study. There are atheists who still deny the existence of Jesus, but you will not find a true HISTORIAN atheist that denies the existence of Jesus. Historian atheists obviously don’t believe Jesus was God, but they absolutely believe He was a man. I challenge you to find a single Historian atheist who denies that Jesus ever lived. What you claimed above is wrong in so many areas. Jesus is quoted numerous times in history of his time period by people who didn’t even believe in Him. The Tora and the Mishnah (Jewish commentaries) mention Jesus over seventy times. Every reference was negative, because the Jews didn’t like Jesus (because to a Jew a man who claimed to be God was the worst thing anyone could do), yet they talk about Jesus. Look up great Historians such as possibly the greatest Roman Historian Cornelius Tacitus – who not only speaks about Jesus but about Pilot gave the final word to sentence Jesus to be executed on a cross. Both Pilate and Jesus are both mentioned in the gospels. Tacitus was absolutely not a believer in Jesus and yet he referenced Pilot sentencing him to death. There are several other refereces from contemporary historians such as Josephus and Pliny the Younger. You may deny Jesus as God, but to say he never lived is truly an ignorant statement. On the basis of history it is an undeniable fact that Jesus lived. Many toy with the idea of a Christ myth, but not on the basis of history. Here is just one of many quotes (below) from atheist historian Will Durant – who was bothered by some atheists who tried to claim Jesus never existed because he knew there was over whelming proof that Jesus lived.
      “After two centuries of Higher Criticism the outlines of the life, character, and teaching of Christ, remain reasonably clear, and constitute the most fascinating feature of the history of Western man.”

    • Kara

      David,
      You seem very ANGRY about God’s existence. There is quite a bit of proof he exists. I think the real issue lies with your struggle to allow him to come into your life. You might see that that your bitterness will go away. A lot of energy spent in writing that email. Not here. God is real and he loves you.

  • cherry

    some strong feelings here in this group. most historians agree he was a real person, his divinity in this situation is not even part of the question. The question is…”is this part of the cross this historical person was crucified on?” Divine or not if he existed and I believe he did, if its authentic that’s pretty cool.

    • John Kurpiel

      Actually, cherry, all historians agree he was a real person. Many don’t believe he was who he claimed to be, but there is not a single true historian today who denies that he lived. The historical evidence is just to overwhelming. In fact, there are many unbelieving historians who get upset when they hear people say he never lived – because the historical evidence is so overwhelming

  • http://yahoo.com benn

    mr david, i’m doubt that you know nothing about GOD (Jesus). you must sort yourself and read a bibble very careful, i think your target is to hurt our faith about jesus but you can’t. Four your information, our GOD is living forever and jesus is God on other side, read ‘isaih 9:6

  • me

    It’s really funny that the people that don’t believe are so angry with the people that do. Why do you care, it has nothing at all to do with you, even if its proven. There are many artifacts that have came to surface(resurrected :-P) and you still don’t want to admit, but stay mad and lash out. That is your right and free choice, so why get angry and ATTEMPT to sound educated and school others who do believe? You will not change their heart, mind, and faith. Your stressing yourself out. Use that same energy and direct it with charity work, mentor, feed homeless or more family time. For that one fella who wrote its fake, its a story, like greek gods, the only difference is that actual physical evidence has come out to prove JESUS is real, and again, why do care. Christianity is foolishness to you, what you try and debate is foolishness to them. Every story on here from non believers,
    are so quick to give feedback to speak on a topic that they have NO
    real knowledge of. I don’t care if you “USED” to be a Christian, you didn’t pass, you chose to make your own way because its easier for you and easy to be mad & blame GOD. You don’t recognize your value so that’s why your truly still just hurt and its a sore point for you when people or articles involve GOD or Jesus. So its your “mission”
    to argue/debate/negatively bash people who have faith in HIM. Then since you blame God for everything, you naturally attack believers.
    Everytime I have counseled a former believer, or atheist, as soon as we get to the root of deep issues, they have anger, unforgiveness, and hatred. They feel God let them down, or a so called “Christian” hurt or harmed them, so that person(s) tarnished the image of what a Christian is in their mind. That’s like me saying ONLY red apples are delicious. Or ONLY African Americans were slaves? Simply UNTRUE! Some people may agree red apples are delicious and African Americans were enslaved, but other racial groups were also, you just hear more about African Americans. So if someone hurt you, it was the sole action of that individual. Even if it is a group of people, they do not represent everyone. If you reconized they were doing wrong, that means you were more intelligent, so you grow up, not down and out.
    You be the exception, you go and do better and not allow it to hinder or alter you. We all are entitled to our views, wrong or right. The vast majority are just not mature enough to continue to get along and live with eachother because it paralyzises you living in unity. I don’t smoke, but I don’t exclude my friends or family that do. Don’t make it more serious than it is, even more so if you decide to exclude yourself but then want to be heard and included when you don’t have a voice on a particular subject you don’t have faith in.
    Believers are ignorant to you, so why include yourself….because you really want to fit in??? You don’t have to accept Jesus or God, I for one won’t attack or hate you, sadly others will…..so don’t worry, we can talk or go do something else we can agree on….like football, or fishing….it will be fine yall….. :-P

  • ian johnston

    I don’t need a piece of wood in order to hold to my faith

    I became a Christian at a very young age and can say that experience of life has proved my faith to be right

    I never cease to be amazed however that those who want to argue about it are those who know NOTHING about it………….it seems that whilst THEY want the freedom to deny faith, they are incapable of allowing others to hold to their faith

    Christianity is NOT something you are born into, it becomes a reality because a personal choice is made under the conviction of the Holy spirit

  • Nolan Adams

    “I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn’t, than live my life as if there isn’t and die to find out there is.” – Albert Camus

    I figured I would chime in. I have been LDS and a Christian all my life. My views may differ from other Christian denominations, but that is okay. I respect the beliefs of all men. For myself, I spent many years being inactive, but came back to the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints for myself. Since I have done that, I have had more happier, more at peace with myself and others and more prepared for trials that do come my way. Is it a coincidence? It could be, but I don’t believe so. I have felt to strongly that the church is true. If they found a piece of the cross, that is fine. I don’t need proof that any of this happened. I will continue to have faith that it did and live my life accordingly. I will share my testimony with others and it is up to them to accept that or not.

  • Name

    I have been through many things in life. Many things — very good and very bad. I can assure you that Christ is very real and that everything he said was the truth. In life, everything Christ speaks of eventually comes to pass. Everything.

    What Christ fundamentally knew is that the “good” people of this world aren’t that good and the “bad” people are not that bad. This is why he told us not to judge and not cast the first stone. He loves each and every person on this planet — good and bad.

    He asks us to forgive, show mercy, have faith, trust, cultivate peace, and love one another. If we did this, we would not have the problems we have today.

  • Want proof Christ exists? Pray.

    I spent four years of my life in one of the most dangerous places on earth. During those four years I prayed the rosary constantly. I came out of that place without a scratch. I assure you it wasn’t because of anything I did. It was because of Christ and my appeals to him.

    The two rosaries I prayed were Mary’s rosary and the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. I recommend both of those. The devil hates the rosary because it glorifies the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. It is very very powerful.

    Doubt what I say? Start praying it and you will see.

    • Yoda Guy

      Funny, but for every circumstance like yours, there are non-believers who also survive without a scratch.

      It doesn’t take “supernatural” powers to protect you, it takes brains, and a bit if luck.

      Ariel Castro was a regular church goer. I can hear it now… “Forgive me father I have sinned. I am keeping 3 woman captive for my own sexual pleasure”…

      “I forgive you my son, say 10 hail Mary’s and give your captives a Coke and a smile”.

  • P

    Personally I don’t believe anyone has ever read the Bible because the Greek word means stake. Cross was added to the bible in it’s place, as was LORD. Among other things, congregation was taken out and substituted with “Church”. Religion(people) destroyed the Bible and everything it stands for.

    • Hmmm…..

      Then you are a bit short sighted.

      Nothing will ever be “perfect.” If there wasn’t a bible, we would not have any focus. It would be billions of people doing their own things.

      Anyone who has ever brought together large groups of people knows that you have to have something for everyone to focus by. It may not be perfect, but it is a start and in the end, is the only way to bring people together.

  • DiligentDragon

    Can I suggest that we talk with believers and Atheists alike, but ignore crazy religious trolls? This goes for Atheist trolls as well. Your faith is a lack of faith, and pushing that off on others is no better than believers pushing their beliefs off on you.

  • http://Mabuzi.com Kevin

    How to rack up up a comments, talk about God or gays.

    If only those countries that followed his teachings actually practiced what he preaches when would live in peace.

    • DiligentDragon

      …Or politics. It seems like everyone wants to be right. The problem is, there is no “right”. Everybody wants different things and has their own ideas about how to run the country. The truth is, what is good for the country is not necessarily good for our wallets. Where is that Utopian world we all want, but refuse to fight for? Can you imagine the bloodbath that a utopian world would cost? We would have to destroy every religious and political person and artifact and relic in the world. Then we would have to destroy all known criminals and then destroy ourselves for causing such havoc. Then just let the meek inherit the Earth. Religion and politics ruin everything. Maybe we will get there on our own one day?

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