Amanda Knox’s Lawyer: Case “…Wholly Unjust”

By: Lacy Langley - August 13, 2014

Amanda Knox’s murder trials for the murder of Meredith Kercher have seemed unending. With an innocent verdict, then a guilty, and now an appeal of that decision, it seems like we will never know the truth about what happened on that fateful night.

One of Amanda Knox’s lawyers, Theodore Simon, explained it this way,

“I got involved after her initial conviction at the end of ’09. On her appellate trial, she was actually found innocent. Thereafter, the prosecution appealed to the country’s Supreme Court and had her innocent verdict reversed. She went back for a new appellate court trial, where she was convicted. And now, it’s back on appeal.”

Wow. That sounds like a nightmare. Even this late in the game, new evidence is being brought to light. Take, for instance, the news that Amanda Knox was allegedly entangled with a cocaine ring in Italy. A statement from the prosecuter’s reports claims,

“During the course of the investigation into the Meredith Kercher, we have confirmed that a person whose initial is ‘F’ would occasionally supply drugs to Amanda Knox, as well as having a relationship with her supposedly of a sexual nature.”

Whether this information actually has an impact on her trial may not be known until the end of this Amanda Knox fiasco. Whenever that may be.

Conflict over Amanda Knox’s guilt or innocence has sparked debates worldwide and has put many people at odds with others on the topic. However, until now, no one really heard too much about inside opinion. That is, until Theodore Simon spoke about the appeal.

“There’s only one thing that is consistent about this particular case: There’s a compelling and profound absence of evidence. It’s a nightmare that should end, and it’s completely and wholly unjust.”

What do you think about Amanda Knox? From the information we have so far, do you think she is guilty or innocent?

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  • Sari

    She is not guity they want to nail her.The prosecution has enough money {tax payers}to impinge their own ego of making so many mistakes.You girl must be tough to get through this.Your naivety got you in troubles.PERSISTENCE ON A GIVEN COURSE.Also do not get discourage from whatever your x boy frind says.He needs to fight for his life as well.I know you will win this.!!!!!

    • tom jones

      screw you murderer supporter

      • edan

        Screw you Murderer Supporter. I assume from your idiotic post you support Rudy Guede, the ONLY Murderer!! Get HELP!! You’re NUTS!!

        • Guest

          Nobody supports Rudy Guede. He’s a ruthless killer, marred by his own miserable past and a liar himself.

    • Dexter rookas

      It seems the Italian public are happy to see justice served. Never heard anyone complaining about the cost

  • Guest

    Guilty as SIN. There is plenty of evidence, even her own three different stories, new DNA and much more.. This lawyer sounds like OJ’s lawyers , they said the same thing. So did casey anthony, and many. they all said, gee its not enough evidence to rove guilt… What is this a GAME?, where if you don’t leave some specific amount of evidence people have to not use their brains and let you GO?? .Thank goodness they don’t have the same ridiculous laws as the USA where she helped murder. Laws that allow lawyers to sleep with their clients while they represent them, like casey anthony and now possibly this ,lawyer with this guilt pretty face…. laws that allow lawyers to tell juries 100 unreasonable excuses for 100 solid circumstances of guilt, when simply believing she did it the 100 circumstances of Guilt make better reasonable sense.??? Laws that allow lawyers to portray to juries 100 unreasonable odd coincidences into a ridiculous set of excuses that the worst luck in the history of the world would not let happen to any person one after the other in a life time let alone a single day .. Yet case after case in america, killers go free even where circumstantial evidence of massive proportions, are presented to the jury. Because evil defense lawyers represent the same mountain one by one with some freak reason. A mountain of solid circumstantial evidence that speaks loud to guilt are being exchanged for a mountain of FREAK coincidence by defense lawyers and jurors are told it is OK.. When the sum of the whole makes such a pile of freak excuses ridiculous. She did it, and she knows she did it. GOD KNOWS SHE DID IT.

    • edan

      God doesn’t know anything about what transpires in human lives. Or God would stop wars, and children getting cancer, and wouldn’t allow Murders like this to happen in the first place. Amanda is 100% completely innocent. There was only ONE killer. He is in prison.

      • tom jones

        rot in hell murderer lover.

        • tcliii

          YOU rot in hell you coward.

      • brihunobham

        “Seek the LORD while He may be found; call upon Him while He is near;let the wicked forsake his way,and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that He may have compassion on him, and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.”

    • DENVER

      Innocent as prayer, try it sometime.
      DENVER

    • Fredly

      What new DNA? There is no Knox DNA in the murder room.

  • joe

    Guilty as SIN. There is plenty of evidence, even her own three different stories, new DNA and much more.. This lawyer sounds like OJ’s lawyers , they said the same thing. So did Casey Anthony, and many. they all said, gee its not enough evidence to prove guilt… What is this a GAME?, where if you don’t leave some specific amount of evidence people have to not use their brains and let you GO?? .Thank goodness they don’t have the same ridiculous laws as the USA where she helped murder. Laws that allow lawyers to sleep with their clients while they represent them, like Casey Anthony and now possibly this ,lawyer with this guilt pretty face…. laws that allow lawyers to tell juries 100 unreasonable excuses for 100 solid circumstances of guilt, when simply believing she did it the 100 circumstances of Guilt make better reasonable sense.??? Laws that allow lawyers to portray to juries 100 unreasonable odd coincidences into a ridiculous set of excuses that the worst luck in the history of the world would not let happen to any person one after the other in a life time let alone a single day .. Yet case after case in america, killers go free even where circumstantial evidence of massive proportions, are presented to the jury. Because evil defense lawyers represent the same mountain one by one with some freak reason. A mountain of solid circumstantial evidence that speaks loud to guilt are being exchanged for a mountain of FREAK coincidence by defense lawyers and jurors are told it is OK.. When the sum of the whole makes such a pile of freak excuses ridiculous. She did it, and she knows she did it. GOD KNOWS SHE DID IT.

    • Gary Douglas

      Joe, you are one of the ignorant, dishonest types to whom Leo refers in his post above yours. Fantasy created by a twisted mind obsessed with destroying an innocent person.

      • DENVER

        Hey Gary,
        Joe is an Italian ignoramus, pizza makes them happy as they do not know what freedom and justice is.
        DENVER

  • Leo

    The completely incompetent Italian authorities already have the killer (who had already murdered another girl in Greece), complete with means, opportunity, motive and plenty of physical evidence.

    With Amanda Knox, they had no physical evidence of any kind and a motive that shifts every time the prosecutor goes to court.

    But – and here’s the point – what they do have was a story that’s worth millions every time Knox’s name hits the headlines. This story has has been stoked by the world press for years (clearly, the prosecutors have no case) – the Italian authorities profit from leaking tidbits for one of the world’s top stories. This has nothing to do with crime or evidence – it’s the juicy fantasy of twisted people who are obsessed with the destruction of a pretty American girl.

    People say Knox has profited from this affair, but the truth is she works in a small Seattle cafe and lives in terror of paparazzi showing up and jamming a camera into her face.

    This is already tragic enough – one young woman was murdered. Why insist on creating another victim?

    For shame, people, for shame.

    • grimbal

      You lie. Rudy Guede did not murder anybody in Greece. Knox is guilty and will pay the full penalty. Good riddance to inferior breading stock .

      • tom jones

        amen!

      • DENVER

        Hey Gum-ball,.
        Amanda will live in freedom in the good old US of A!
        Enjoy your pizza!
        DENVER

        • Dexter rookas

          She may be free physically. But this will weigh on her mind forever. She’d be on death row if this had happened in seattle

          • Lysa De Thomas

            No she wouldn’t. She wouldn’t even have beenarrested. She wouldn’t have been interrogated for over 40 hours without bathroom breaks or a lawyer, and with no DNA evidence of her in a room, she would never have been convicted.

          • Dexter rookas

            She was only arrested because she went to the police station voluntarily and talked herself into this.She could’ve left at any time. She could’ve told anyone in the prison about the abuse,but didn’t. why would the police abuse her? She was a young student and the police in Uni towns treat students fairly. it’s all the lies that have everyone believing the conviction is sound

      • vortex

        Full penalty=7 years and kiss on the head as “pooor Rudy” from Giuliano Mignini because Rudy lied about Knox to help Giuliano
        in the vendetta to frame the “American Witch”.

      • tcliii

        Prove it liar.

      • Fredly

        Do you believe he sexually pleased himself with her corpse?

    • edan

      Guede had a rap sheet. Amanda had never been arrested for jaywalking Rudy’s blood, sperm, and poop were all found at or near the crime scene, including inside Kercher. Rudy had robbed the victim after he raped and murdered her. No DNA of Amanda’s was found in Kercher’s room, where the Murder took place. NOT Guilty.

      • Dexter rookas

        Ok, that’s the defence’s side. What about the fact that there was no activity on RS’s computer at time of murder,when he said he was home on his computer. Why did RS say that MK had cut her finger on his kitchen knife? why did AK call her mum in middle of the night Seattle time? Then deny it. Read the email she sent just after the murder. Why didn’t she tell anyone in prison about the police beatings? She only said she was beaten after PL’s alibi was proved.

    • tom jones

      you love supporting murderers huh you sicko.

    • Guest

      What the freak are you on saying Rudy killed a girl in Greece?

  • GeorgeHanshaw1

    The question is not; Is she guilty or innocent. Clearly, that will never be known with certainty, since the Italian Postal Police, the Perugian local police, the Carabinieri, and -especially – the Polizia Scientifica all so thoroughly trashed the murder scene and so atrociously violated accepted forensic standards that it would be virtually impossible to convict anyone other than Rudy Guede in any rational court. Not that tha will stop the Italians.

    In Italy, every trial gets an automatic appeal where- in almost half the cases, the initial guilty verdict is overturned. And that is what happened in this case. But wait… The Court of Cassation, the same court that recently overturned the conviction of a 60 year old pedophile social worker who was caught in flagrant delicto with the 11 year old daughter of one of his clients on the grounds that THE FIRST TWO COURTS HAS UNDERESTIMATED THE AMOROUS FEELINGS OF THE ELEVEN YEAR OLD TOWARD THE PEDOPHILE, in the case of Knox and Sollecito OVERTURNED THE ACQUITTAL.

    Italian justice is basically screwed up from top to bottom. Ask anyone in the EU, particularly the Italians themselves.

    • tom jones

      no the america crappy system is better, id take italy anyday and screw you murderer supporter, you only care cause shes pretty bottom line,

      • DENVER

        Cool, you live in Italy, Amanda will be free in America.
        Enjoy your pizza.
        DENVER

      • GeorgeHanshaw1

        I’m sure my oldest grandson thinks she’s a good looking woman. Personally, I think my wife of 45 years is the only one I’ll be spending the rest of my life with. Now that we’ve gotten the personal stuff out of the way, I HAVE lived in Europe and spent quite a lot of time in Italy. Their judicial system, in truth, is the laughingstock of the EU. In fact, UKIP actually uses the threat of being in the same system as Italy to push their Eurosceptic agenda, quite successfully at that.

        No, there is absolutely NO evidence to support the guilt of either Knox or Sollecito. There MIGHT have been without the ineptness of the Italian police and judicial system, but I guess we’ll never know. The forensics people really screwed the pooch on this one – as usual…

  • Gary Douglas

    Clearly innocent. She was railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor and an irresponsible tabloid press. Then again by people ignorant enough to believe the nonsense.

    • tom jones

      clearly guilty as hell

  • joe

    Showed her guilt from the very first second. It was her friend and room mate. Never did she shed a single tear in the interview when the police interviewed her first for help to solve the crime. Instantly she was cold. Not a tear, not a word of are you going to find this person? Do you have any clues? Why would someone do this/ and not a tear. Instead, she was on the instant defensive, trying to distance herself instead of trying to help and think of anything or anyone who she met seen could have done it. Total defensive. To the point she screwed up about text messages she said she never got but did. To this day the only tears she ever shed were for herself when they eventually arrested her. Even to this day, not a tear for her friend. Imagine that. she acted as if this person as just a dead body found in her apartment and she had no idea who they were. There is not a single person who would react that way upon finding you friends dead murdered body, much less your friend you were living with. No concern to find the real killer or that maybe they were after her. NONE, the list goes on and on. But the facts are clear, you people need to read the real evidence. Her DNA was found on the knife, on the clasp of the bra and more. Her time line, plus cell phone location on texts puts her smack in the apartment complex and no where else. She first said she was somewhere else far away. When they proved she was texting on location, she changed her story to she was in the next apartment…she has no alibi. All she keeps complaining not that she can prove she was somewhere else, but that the evidence against her is fraud or tainted. Imagine that. Sounds like OJ.

    No don’t forget, this thing mimicking a human is not human. She is soulless flesh. She cant act perfect and as a result all her natural reactions upon the very night of the murder were ALL WRONG for any person suddenly made aware her best friend was murdered in the apartment they shared. No concern whatsoever stated or shown to know who did it, or for herself maybe they will come for her, or to shed a single tear for a so called friend. Imagine that…ALL WRONG.. just like OJ who also, showed not a ounce of surprise upon being informed or a tear. That is the MARK of the beast within her. I expect others to support her, for the WORLD is full of SOULLESS evil flesh just like her, and EVIL works together.

    • Laramie F.

      Oh yeah because everyone reacts exactly the same to highly traumatic events? So if you’d seen her cry on TV you’d think she was innocent? You’ve never seen anybody crying and protesting their innocence that eventually confessed to being guilty once the evidence was overwhelming?

      One thing that is undeniable is the Rudy Guede fled the country like a guilty person. Amanda Knox stayed voluntarily, thinking she was helping the police. Actions speak louder than tears.

      But you haven’t updated your facts since 2007 or you’d know for example that Knox’s DNA was not found on the Bra Clasp. Her boyfriend’s might have if you believe the absurdly incompetent police didn’t botch the evidence gathering and handling.

      • joe

        Like I said fella, you are one of the soulless. Your hollow empty flesh is showing. I seen the first video interview. The night it happened interview. She is guilty as sin. Hard cold person being ask to help can she think of anyone or anything to help them, and all she can do is be hard cold, I didn’t have anything to do with it, and they never even said she did. She was distancing herself from the get go. She stayed because she had no money to leave. The rest of the facts are just icing on the cake she made that very night of lies, when she should have been helping and concerned and shocked and so much more that innocent people do. Stone cold dry faced only concerned with trying to prove she was not there and slipped up. NO ONE, NO ONE, goes on the defensive when their friend is murdered and all they wanted was any leads from her. She just kept trying to prove she was not there. they were not even asking her that……Imagine that, not a single tear for a horrific murder that normal people would think, WOW, in my apartment, MY FRIEND, it could have been me, OH my GOD, we were just going to go somewhere together, so was so nice…NOT A TEAR. PAL. NOT ONE>>, as if she has been around murders all her life. . GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

        • DENVER

          Joe, Joe, Joe,
          You are a sorry fart.
          I do not know if I’m soulless like you, but at least I know fact from fiction.
          Amanda and Raffaele are 1000% innocent, Rudy Guede is 100% guilty.
          Amanda will live a happy life in America, you will live a soulless life in Italy.
          DENVER

        • Guest

          She stayed because she had no money to leave. Absolutely. She would rather take the risk of hanging near crime scene than going back to Podunk Seattle with people there not knowing how wild and bold she’d been in Perugia.

          • joe

            She stayed to be in control. In greater control than no control to the ensuing investigation and witnesses she could have no way to know what was going on if she were Home….. What she claims was her being more helpful than anyone else such as interrogations and willful interviews, was really her keeping the enemy close, to get info. They were not interviewing her as much as she was them. ..To have faster inputs to what they learned in investigations and have faster response to conjuring a excuse right away. To foster witnesses and keep her stories uniform as much as possible. It never works.

          • Lysa De Thomas

            Right, a ditzy 20 year old is more aware and in control that a mob boss. LOL

          • Guest

            You’re right. She wanted to lap up all the attention the police were pouring out on “her crime”. Secret thrill and also to get info to stay one step ahead. Sociopaths often insert themselves into the investigation.

          • Lysa De Thomas

            She had 5,000 in the bank, parents who offered to pay for a ticket home, and European relatives who offered to pick her up and have her stay with them, and Seattle is anything but Podunk.

      • tom jones

        murderer supporter!

    • edan

      They had lived in an apartment together for a month. Knox barely knew Kercher. Amanda was going to school, working a job, and had become involved with Rafale. How much time did she have to spend with Meredith?

      • Guest

        SInce when is a MONTH not enough time to become friends, or long enough to get to know someone well enough to be scared, shocked, frightened, hurt , upset, fearfull, compassionate, or driven to tears by terrible news upon the sudden discovery she was SLAUGHTERED in your apartment, and you were room mates, who just got done eating together, sharing life together day by day..??? What kind of MONSTER is she and what kind of MONSTER are you to even think that way is normal or possible?? a MONTH.. MY GOD, You are soulless evil and exactly as the others who agree with her. . They They became friends long before they moved in together. CLOWN..

        GUILTY GUILTY, ONLY a GUILTY person with PRE-KNOWLEDGE of the MURDER would not react and could not react with true shock and fear or fright to loosing a friend , roomate is such a horrific way. ONLY a GUILTY GUILTY person would not be able to bring themselves to tears at such a horrible things to someone they were just with and in their own home. ONLY a GUILTY person would be not asking who did this, how can I help, Will I be safe officer?, How do I know they were not trying to kill me? I’m afraid to go home. NO OF THIS happened, NO OF IT…What she did was start trying to prove she was not there, and they were not even asking for such proof , they were trying to get clues of who ro what she may have seen. ANYTHING think of ANYTHING amanda. and all she did was, NO I didn’t do it, I don’t know anything. Yet they they PROVED for a absolute fact she lied she left and was not there. SHE LIED. she was there, so she came up with another story she was there but down the HALL in another apartment …She KNOWS they have cell phone data that only shows her in the apartment complex. This EVIL thing is NOT human, she is SOULLESS flesh and is EVIL and lying. .

        • DENVER

          A month?
          So, in just a month, how did Amanda become a king-pin in the Mafia’s cocaine distribution ring???
          DENVER

        • edan

          You’re NUTS!! Seek HELP!!

          • Guest

            Not nuts. This guest is right. Amanda should have been scared, petrified, aghast and wanting police protection.

        • Guest

          It’s true.
          The women who lived in my college dorm led various lives and a few of them shocked me. But I was sad when I heard one of them had broken up with a guy, or failed an academic course.
          Much less if she’d been knifed. Much less killed in the room beside me on same hall.
          I still remember the one who got pregnant out of wedlock but did marry the guy, a special shock because she had only one working ovary. She loved a certain perfume, I remember her brand of scent, I still know its name.
          Young women are very tuned in to each other. It was a big shock that one was using birth control.
          I had no close associations with these females but was impressed by the realities of their lives.
          Everyone was learning from each other, especially the social stuff. The young are more compassionate usually, not so hardened with time and TMI.

    • Guest

      You sent chillbumps down my spine. Evil works together. You said it. And may I add Knox has become enslaved to the equally distant, cold, and indifferent Raffaele Sollecito who has become the mirror image of daddy dearest in her life. We recreate the devils we know, hoping to learn how to control them.

      • joe

        If she were enslaved, it would be observable in her actions. She would have had moments of reaching OUT to free herself by Revealing more and more bits of the TRUTH, till finally one day REVEAL IT ALL. For it is ONLY trough revealing the truth that one can set themselves free of EVil and redeem the soul. It is true that telling the truth shall also reveal her true greater contribution with EVIL. Evil uses fear upon its accomplices, fear of a greater punishment shall come from telling the truth TRUE inequities, to subdue them from telling the TRUTH, or force them to commit to telling only HALF truths. This then solidifies their SIN before GOD . For it is at that moment the accomplice has chosen to substantiate LIE for benefit of EVIL and before GOD on the bible.. But those of good heart who seek redemption from sin, who have been ensnared by EVIl in fear of greater consequences of truth begin to realize in the battle for their SOUL that everyone faces one day,, the greater consequences actually come from the after fact act and commitment to swear on the BIBLE under oath before GOD to a LIE. There at the moment, EVil now has been given the soul, not by taking it, but by the accomplice freely of their OWN freewill choosing to give it to him, upon swearing before GOD to a LIE..Thou shall not take GOD’s name in VEIN. Is to LIE before GOD and in GOD’s name. .

        If she were of any soul remaining, and any good heart, she would seek to Reveal the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and resist any fear of consequences evil brings to her mind to stop her, and follow her heart. The TRUTH would ring so true no one would be able to resist it is truth, for even the evil and pure evil can not fight TRUTH once it is REVEALED. Satan can only fight half truths, or LIES.

        Revealing the TRUTH will redeem her soul and that is more important than anything . For this life is but a breath. When someone shows GOD by braving great fear of ALL greater consequences of truth, even sometimes being cast to perdition for a unknown duration as a result of revealing TRUTH , GOD can and will create a miracle to set them free , even in the breath of life. Free to once again walk in freedom and released from the bond of EVIL. The devil and Evil shall never attempt to ensnare them again for it knows they have found the path to redemption.

        Many say they have found GOD in Perdition. Many who have even been put to death by mans laws. However, at the same time all they have done is accept what they did as having been wrong, while NEVER to their last day ever having REVEALED the absolute TRUTH. Failing to do so, and only admitting their sin, does not give absolution from GOD. For it is written, LET THE TRUTH BE REVEALED……Admitting you sinned does not suffice. GOD knows everyone shall sin, for sin is etched to happen to ALL as part of the test…admitting it, tells GOD nothing good about your use of your free will . But Revealing the truth in GOD’s name does , for GOD does NOT control your free will ever, he wants you to, in his way. When you REVEAL truth in his name to combat Satan, Evil and sin, it is the greatest pleasure you can give GOD. Like a father watching his children stand up and FIGHT evil in his name, and choosing to do so…For this GOD rewards you.

        Praise GOD, HE is Lord of all ,amen

        • Jame Seabrook

          Joe using all caps is a sign of insanity.

          • joe

            James, If you see all caps, you are the one who is insane.
            For those who only see some words in caps, be advised, Using caps on certain words and phrases is an alternate when underlining is not available.

          • joe

            @Jame if you see all caps you are the one who is insane. For those who do not see all caps, using caps on certain words and phrases is an alternate when underlining is not available.

  • hikertom

    The most amazing thing about this case is how such a simple case could be made into something so complicated.
    Rudy Guede has a history of throwing rocks through windows in order to break in and rob.
    He left the only evidence in the room where the murder occurred.
    There was a window broken by a rock which could only have been thrown from the outside.
    Anyone with more than a gram of gray matter would conclude that he broke into the house and committed the murder. Instead, a prosecutor fabricates a convoluted theory involving a sex orgy and staged break-in in order to involve two students with no motive and no history of violent behavior.

    Another amazing thing is how many suckers still believe Mignini’s theory.

    • grimbal

      And Amanda Knox has a history of throwing rocks at cars in Seattle. As to Rudy Guede then why did he leave no DNA in the bedroom where the break-in was staged. Can’t answer that can you

      • edan

        Amanda Knox had NO criminal background of any kind. Loser!

        • GeorgeHanshaw1

          Not so. She got a ticket once for hosting a party in college where the stereo was played loud enough to be heard 75 feet (23 meters) off the premises, a violation of the environmental section of the Seattle Municipal Code. The party participants took up a collection and she went down and paid the ticket.

          That was it.

          The entire rap sheet.

          Now do you really think that a mere six weeks of exposure to Italy could have so corrupted her that she became someone who could cut someone’s throat? And learned enough to do it without leaving a speck of her DNA in the room?

          • hikertom

            Getting a ticket does not make a “criminal background”. If it did, nearly everyone would be a criminal.

          • Guest

            She was already breaking loose with bad associates.

        • SR Bach

          Edan:

          “No criminal background” means nothing–especially at age 20.

          FACT:

          Many first-time murderers have NO “criminal record” until they commit their first murder.

          But often (but not always) there are prior signs that indicate a lack of empathy and anger issues.

          Amanda was the type of person who didn’t often show anger, but she WOULD find a way to retaliate through her behavior.

          Amanda Knox once pulled a ‘rape
          prank’ on her roommie one April Fools Day back at UW. Amanda was able to enlist some male friends to put on ski masks and break in, brandishing big knives to terrify her roommate.

          It’s not clear if this is the same roomie who started dating Kyle, with whom Knox had her first sexual encounter.

          Kyle dumped Knox and then started dating Knox’s roommate. According to a good friend, Knox was devastated by this, but didn’t admit to being angry. With this “rape prank” (which Knox recently admitted to) she might have “gotten even” with the Seattle rooomate.

          We know she found a way to get even with Kyle, by making him the bad guy in the rape story she posted to her MySpace page.

          According to N. Burleigh who had complete interview access to Knox’s friends and family, Knox was always loud and she had to be the center of attention. She had a history of doing mean-spirited pranks in order to get the spotlight on her. According to Burleigh, Amanda would pull one of her pranks and then “deal with it later.”

          Evidently Knox’s family didn’t deal with it either. They just chalked it up to “Amanda being Amanda.”

          These mean-spirited pranks shows a sadistic side to Knox which really blossomed in full when she was on her own, in Perugia, far away from family and friends.

      • hikertom

        grimmy:
        How do you know Guede didn’t leave any DNA in Filomena’s bedroom? The police only tested 5 spots. And why didn’t they test the spot of blood under the window sill? And why didn’t they examine the footprints on the clothes? Could it be that they were afraid they would find dirt from below the window in the footprints?

        It looks to me like the police and prosecutor didn’t really want to know what happened.

      • DENVER

        Hey Gum-ball,
        How’s that pizza diet working for you?
        DENVER
        PS
        There was blood on the glass they did not test, why???

      • Guest

        Amanda is a rock thrower and a rock climber and a rock band groupie

    • Fredly

      Every witch hunt needs a witch.

    • Dexter rookas

      The police who arrived on the scene first with the stolen phones suspected the break in had been staged. Not the prosecutor

      • hikertom

        Prosecutor Mignini got the idea that the break-in through Filomena’s window was staged from Polizia Postale investigator Battistelli, who arrived at the house to investigate Meredith’s abandoned cell phones. After a cursory look at the broken window, he said that it could have been staged as part of an insurance fraud scheme.

        He had no proof that the break-in was staged.

  • Stargazer

    From a country like Italy, who can keep wasting court time on anyone until they get a guilty verdict, they can keep bantering this back and forth til the end of time as far as I’m concerned! As long as Amanda doesn’t go back there…then all is good. Italy has a very stupid justice system in that respect. They keep beating the proverbial dead horse on a case until they get the verdict they want. Like I said…stupid!

  • edan

    We know the truth. Knox was a nice young woman from Seattle. Who worked 2 jobs while attending School to save money to go and study abroad. She was never involved with the law before her roomate was murdered by SOMEONE else. Rudy Guede, who was well known by law enforcement, and had his DNA found all over the crime scene, including inside the victim. He is the ONLY person responsible for this terrible crime. Let Amanda have her life back already. Geezus H. Christ, already!

    • Allison

      Enough already, already

  • joe

    Guilty PIG with a long long history in the USA, and a robust history in a short time overseas of sex and drugs.. The girls with Manson were pretty and nice too, all home grown girls , who had wild sex no one knew of until after and did drugs and became monsters when they did drugs. They murdered people they didnt even know, in a house they use to rent and live in, even cut a baby out of a womens stomach after she was dead, then went back home and acted like ” who ME? I could never do such a thing.” All over the press and t.v acting like they were being wrongfully prosecuted. Heck Jodi arias is still trying to say she was a victim too. Funny thing is even she has supporters too, just because of her face. Soulless people are evil and they don’t connect with humanity. They only connect with anything against their freedom to be inhumane.

    • DENVER

      The only swine around here is you, Joe.
      Rudy did it, he has rich parents who have apparently purchased your soul too.
      DENVER

    • GeorgeHanshaw1

      ” I seen the first video interview.”

      Total rap sheet:

      Played stereo too loudly at going away party.

      http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/files/library/knoxincidentreport.pdf

      The trial of former University of Washington student Amanda Knox took
      an odd turn Saturday as lawyers in Italy debated the significance of a
      Seattle party at which Knox was cited for residential disturbance – her
      only prior documented contact with police.

      Her college friend, Andrew Seliber, flew to Perugia and appeared as a
      character witness, as seattlepi.com correspondent Andrea Vogt reported. The 2007 party, he said, was pretty normal for college kids: There was a band, it was loud and a neighbor called police.

      Knox took responsibility, was given a $269 fine, which she paid with
      some money pooled from friends. The ticket was issued June 30, 2007, and
      the case was closed the next month, according to court records.

    • edan

      She was 19. How long a history did she have? you’re crazy as hell. Leave this girl/woman alone. YOU SICK STALKER!!

    • edan

      Jodi Arias had her DNA all over the crime scene, just like Rudy Guede did. Jodi Arias eventually had to admit her guilt, because the weight of the evidence finding her totally responsible, was EQUAL to the amount of evidence against Guede, Not Knox.

      NOT GUILTY!! YOU SICK STALKER!!

      • Guest

        I think bad stuff happened after Knox’s high school graduation.

  • And so it goes……….

    It is so obvious that the Italian authorities royally screwed this investigation up from the beginning. They mishandled evidence including DNA, did not properly manage the crime scene so that it was compromised. Then when the defense on appeal really focused on the evidence they used to secure a conviction there were all kinds of problems with it. What they said they had and what they really had did not match. Who knows what really happened that night but the Italian authorities do not get to keep bringing this case up over and over in order to minimize their ineptitude. If the killer is not in this group of suspects, then they will never be found. I suppose they realize that and are trying to make whatever evidence they have fit Amanda and her b/f. If I were the victims parents I would be looking into a lawsuit against the Italian authorities for bumbling this investigation and denying their daughter any justice whatsoever.

  • tom jones

    please god drag her back to italy her guilty ass and throw away the key, if she were a fat ugly man no one would care, but the sheep in america only care for the rich and famous and the good looking women. screw this country and were making fun of italy, i would love to live there!

    • edan

      Amanda comes from a very regular, nondescript Middle Class family. They have had to mortgage their house, cash in their IRA’s and hock themselves up to their eyeballs in debt, because of lunatics like yourself, who refuse to look at the evidence. I don’t care if Amanda was 50, fat, ugly, and pimple faced. She’s an American wrongly charged in a gruesome Murder, that she clearly had NOTHING to do with. YOU ARE JUST A SICK STALKER!! Don’t follow Amanda. Stay away from her. SICKO!!

      • Dexter rookas

        So you’re not worried about RS then? You’re only supporting her because she’s American. read all the facts, her constant changing stories, her lies. This is what has convicted her.

        • kcmookie

          Get over it Dexter, the OP attacked Amanda, and Edan defended her, it doesn’t mean the same support goes for Rafaelle. I have read all the facts and judges findings, this is a travesty of justice as these 2 had nothing to do with the crime.

          • Dexter rookas

            What about the fact that there was no activity on RS’s computer at time of murder,when he said he was home on his computer. Why did RS say that MK had cut her finger on his kitchen knife? why did AK call her mum in middle of the night Seattle time? Then deny it. Read the email she sent just after the murder. Why didn’t she tell anyone in prison about the police beatings? She only said she was beaten after PL’s alibi was proved. I could go on

          • Guest

            These points alone fry them.

        • dylan

          RS supporters and family are saying now there was no break in and he was not with her in the evening . What does this tell you?

          • Guest

            Raf has ditched her.

        • Guest

          Knox was an explosion waiting to happen. Thank her dad.

      • Guest

        Not lunatics like the commenter above, but lunatics like Raffaele. He set her up. He seethed at Knox when she played him for a fool.
        Then when the fight broke out with Meredith, he took his revenge on all women. That’s my theory.
        He is more disturbed than his butter won’t melt in his mouth fake image he tries to project.
        He is the original masked man. He hid his true nature from Amanda while she was acting out her true nature to his advantage.
        She was like a wild donkey he knew he could use her weakness against her. He was waiting like a big black spider for just such a woman.
        His new woman with her I love NY shirt on in Venice better watch her back, he is dangerous. His own family better look out, he could snap again. Brian Tighe knife, he plans ahead. Knox hates police because of her raunchy party they showed up. Naked bodies were draped everywhere they said. Police were a witness to going away party. Going away to prison.
        He hates police because of his sister. Maybe Daddy the Doctor hated them too. He does now, it was class division why Napoleoni was disliked. Don’t worry, Raf got his scented embroidered hanky behind bars. Knox got him used to dirt. He vacuumed his car.

  • Joan James

    Actually, Lacy, we know what happened that night…there’s no question…never was. Rudy Guede, assuming everyone was either gone for the weekend or out late, smashed a window, climbed up and entered the house at Via Pergola with the intent of burglary. Tragically, Meredith Kercher came home early and he sexually assaulted her and very brutally murdered her. Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito weren’t there that night and had nothing whatsoever do with the crime.

  • edan

    Are the Italian Prosecutors going to charge the “Cocaine” Kingpin with complicity in the Murder, too. Why not? That would mean there was Amanda and Raffaele, and the Cocaine Kingpin, and possibly 2 or 3 others in the “Cocaine Ring” there as well. It was an ORGY. But still the ONLY DNA found in Kercher’s room or on her body was Rudy Guede. Amanda went from sweet, innocent girl from Seattle, to sex crazed Cocaine Goddess, and Kingpin all in 6 weeks. But in Italy, anything is possible. I guess?

  • vortex

    Italian Constitution does not apply to “American Witches”
    Anyone who contends that the Italian trials of Amanda Knox were “fair and impartial” should consider the following.
    Italian Judge Nincini based the recent conviction of Amanda Knox upon numerous accusations made by burglar and murderer Rudy Guede, but the Italian judges REFUSED to allow Knox to cross examine Rudy Guede, in SPITE of the fact that the ITALIAN Constitution states “The guilt of the defendant cannot be established on the basis of statements by persons who, out of their own free choice, have always voluntarily avoided undergoing cross-examination by the defendant or the defence counsel.”
    Italian Judge Nincini based the recent conviction of Amanda Knox upon the conviction documents from the separate trial of burglar and murderer Rudy Guede, which Knox was not allowed to participate in any way. This means that the Guede trial decision that condemmed Knox is binding on any trial of Knox in the future and she will be judged guilty regardless of what happens in any of her trials
    because the Guede trial decision found her a “participant”.
    So Knox is has been found to be a “participant” in a murder in a trial where she was not allowed to participate, even though the Italian Constitution states “All court trials are conducted with adversary proceedings and the parties are entitled to equal conditions before an impartial judge in third party position.”.
    Italian Judge Nincini DENIED, without explanation, over 20 requests by Knox lawyers to examine evidence that would have weakened the prosecution case, including a request to identify a SEMEN STAIN that the burglar and murderer Rudy Guede deposited under the buttocks of the dead woman, in spite of the fact that the Italian Constitution states “The defendant shall have the right ….to produce all other evidence in favor of the defense.”
    The Italian Judiciary has shown itself willing and able to ignore the Italian Constitution to frame Amanda Knox.

    • SR Bach

      Vortex:

      The US Embassy in Rome has been monitoring this case from the very start. They have uncovered NO IRREGULARITIES WHATSOEVER in this case, since the very beginning.

      But, YOU have!! The Embassy officials must be like, um..BLIND!

      You’ve uncovered the TRUTH, all by yourself, with the assistance of a few conspiracy theorist friends. The Embassy needs to hear your “best truth!” The sooner the better, don’t you think?

      So don’t delay! And don’t waste your time here. You need to take the next flight to Rome and go straight to Via Veneto to teach those US Embassy personnel a thing or two! YOU’VE REALLY GOT TO ENLIGHTEN THEM!!

      The US Embassy and its staff obviously can’t possible figure this out. But YOU CAN AND YOU HAVE!!! You have these stunning revelations and bits of wisdom that you really have to share with them. Don’t forget the “American witch” thing. That is sooooooooooo good!

      With the value of what you have to offer, you shouldn’t be wasting your time on these silly comment sections. Take up your arguments and all your allegations and claims and present them to the US Embassy in Rome.

      If the Ambassador won’t meet with you, check to see if the US Embassy in Rome has a “Best Truths” section. If they do, I’m sure someone in that department would be happy to meet with you and listen attentively to your “findings.”

      P.S. Pssst! It would be a good idea if you learned to spell the judge’s name correctly. You don’t want to look like a total idiot. It’s NENCINI, not NINCINI.

  • Allison

    It’s so sad to see that this discussion continues to go nowhere. This trial isn’t a game, Italy v America. In any case the victim (and her family) are English. Meredith Kercher, who happened to be from the UK, was savagely killed, maybe even murdered. She was intelligent, popular, beautiful and stylish, but this isn’t really relevant, even the bad-stupid-ugly deserve justice. Nothing will bring Meredith back, but surely the best outcome now is that her family can have some closure.

    Amanda Knox, a quirky, pretty girl, is a type who could always draw attention and court controversy, but that doesn’t make her guilty. Raffaele Sollecito was probably just a suitable accessory (in terms of the press interest) but that doesn’t mean that he would be guilty merely by association.

    It is obvious from the original Italian transcript, that RS and AK were involved and likely to be present, even if they aren’t murderers or even just unintentional killers. Maybe they were too stoned, drunk, out of it, to be able to be reliable witnesses later, but no amount of PR whitewash can put them elsewhere. If innocent, RS and AK should seek to exonerate themselves by providing ALL the information that they can, and trusting to justice (which is as valid in corruption-filled Italy as it is in the so-called land of the free).

    One aspect of the situation is the manner in which the family of Meredith have conducted themselves with awe-inspiring dignity and grace. It should be remembered that, at this point, they are the central victims; they are the blameless victims here.

    • Guest

      About the Kerchers, such restraint. Such dignified silence.

      • Checkmate

        I totally agree. The Kerchers deserve any support they can get.

        • carlofab

          I see little prospect of justice for Meredith Kercher.

          Rudy Guede’s good luck was that police arrested three innocent people before his mischief was discovered. Prosecutors and police needed his cooperation to cover up a bungled investigation and for this he has been amply rewarded.

          For Amanda and Raffaele some measure of justice remains
          possible.

          Justice for Meredith would at this juncture require a purge or outright reform of the Italian justice system, with incarceration of those who participated in the fraud, and this I do not think likely. Meredith and her family have been betrayed by the nation of Italy, though their faith in its justice system has not wavered.

          • Guest

            What bungled investigation? The bunglers were Amanda the clown and Raffaele the cleaver wrapped in toilet paper, well sure enough his footprint was found in a bathroom. Amanda was sitting on a toilet in a bathtub if you recall those icky photos by her uberfriend Madison Pax another weirdo. Rudy fell asleep on the boys’ toilet, talk about zonked out. This guy is looking for new brothers.
            The police didn’t bungle anything. Rudy is the bungler. He made a mess at every place he broke into, turned up the heat, his head is seriously scrambled.
            Inconsolable grief, what the Kerchers face. You don’t hear them writing their biographies and going on TV to tell all about Arline’s life or Lyle’s school awards or Stephanie’s upbringing or John Sr’s achievements. They keep themselves in the far background. Meredith is their only concern. You don’t see them weep and scream for retaliation, nor parading themselves in front of cameras. They shy away. They retire from the spotlight.
            They allow their lawyers to strive which is the way it should be instead of becoming a Hollywood sideshow.
            The only thing they wanted was for Meredith’s life, not their own egos in detail, to be known and appreciated, hence the book with her face and her face only on the cover and her name the only name on that beautiful book MEREDITH.
            Knox does not fool anyone wearing her blue and white Seattle prep colors a little late make that way too late.
            And look at her sitting down on a chair with her waiting to be heard by the herd stupid bookcover but Meredith is standing up even though it’s a headshot. Meredith is a standup kinda gal. Knox sat down on the job and got jealous because Meredith danced the night away with gusto and didn’t have to work late nights. She could have fun with Frost and Purton and was at a real uni not some Kentucky Fried School for college dropouts lying to mom.
            And what will make the Kerchers whole? What would make the Knox family whole? Or the Mellas family. To get out from under the shadow of Amanda for the next twenty years might be a start.

        • dmontnz

          Checkmate, I note you are also discussing this case on PMF, and expressing some unease about aspects. There is one major hurdle to overcome before being sure of guilt, and the logical path is as follows
          1. The prosecution case falls over if it can be proved that the break in was real. Prosecutor Mignini is on record as saying this.
          2. In order to accept the break in was staged, it is necessary to conclude it was after the murder, around midnight, so there is a dead body in the house, the presence of which it is important is not discovered for some time.
          3. Therefore the large rock must not be used from outside, due to the high likelihood of alerting neighbours and so on.
          4. The damage to the shutter is only possible with the rock hurled from outside, due to the complete non damage to the panel of the shutter that was struck. This damage can be limited to the frame only by having the shutter swinging freely when struck. If this shutter was struck inside the room, the wardrobe shelving will prevent this free swinging, and result in certain damage to the shutter panel.
          This photograph is best viewed by finding the picture Ron Hendry posted in his analysis. It is the fifth picture down in the first part. Just google Ron Hendry to find this.
          5. It is also easy to see with careful study of this photograph that the shutter must have been struck at right angles and with great speed. The speed is determined by the deep embedding of the glass shard, also noted in this picture.
          It is also impossible for the slightly built Knox to deliver this shotput weighted rock with this velocity, so she would have to have persuaded Raffaele to go outside, hurl this rock from the car park, with great accuracy and only one chance to succeed at midnight after the murder. Think about all that, and then consider Rudy could do it safely after knocking on the door, ascertaining no one home, and with the ability to disappear if discovered before any crime was committed.
          It is also very easy to prove that Meredith died close to 9pm due to the complete contents of her meal being within her stomach. Ignore those who say digestion evidence is unreliable, as this containment gives a very precise maximum time after her meal to survive. It thus becomes much easier to consider Gill and others need paying attention to on the flawed dna collection and analysis.
          All this I have written is extremely easy for you and the Kercher family to analyse for your selves. I hope you all do so before the greatest miscarriage of justice of the century is signed off.

          • Checkmate

            I don’t know how you deduced I have posted on PMF but it is true !
            I probably wont agree in the end with your rather long list of arguments, but I will give it thought and respond later. The time you have taken and the use of an appropriate tone are well appreciated.

          • dmontnz

            I spotted a valid checkmate (lol) amongst other clues, but I am not trying to do anything but help in a case where I have spent an inordinate amount of time.

    • carlofab

      The “original Italian transcript” is merely a record of what people said in court. For example, Amanda said “I did not kill my friend.”

      • SR Bach

        Amanda said “I did not kill my friend.”

        But, it’s one of those Amanda Knox ambiguous statements that mean nothing because it’s unclear to whom she is referring.

        None of Meredith’s REAL friends believed Knox thought Meredith was her friend. NONE. Meredith’s real friends would know.

        There is no evidence that Amanda Knox acted like nor did she treat Meredith Kercher like “a friend.” Not before,nor certainly AFTER Meredith’s brutal homicide.

        When she says “I did not kill my friend.” I can assume she is referring to…her only friend, Madison Paxton.

        • carlofab

          SR Bach: You are the only person on the planet who wonders to whom Amanda was referring. Prosecutors, judge, and jury had no doubt.

          Amanda and Meredith sunbathed together on their terrace, attended the chocolate festival, dined and went drinking with Merdith’s British friends, and attended the classical music concert where Amanda met Raffaele.

          Meredith had not known any of her British friends when in the U.K. She met them all in Perugia where she met Amanda.

          Shortly after the murder Amy Frost told police that Meredith said Amanda was “sweet and nice.” None had a bad word to say about her until she was arrested and slandered in the press. After that they scrambled to distance themselves and began to put a more sinister spin on their experiences with her.

          No doubt if Rudy had murdered Amanda, and police had accused Meredith, they would have turned on her just as quick.

          • SR Bach

            carlofab:

            I’m not the only one who wonders WHY Amanda Knox continues to AVOID calling the beautiful young woman she killed–

            by her real name, i.e., MEREDITH KERCHER.

            Why does Knox constantly say instead “I didn’t kill my FRIEND?”

            Why does she STRUGGLE to plainly say:

            “I didn’t kill MEREDITH KERCHER.”

            Of course a murder defendant would say all sorts of nice things about the victim, after being arrested for the murder ! (e.g. “But, but I loved my wife! I would never kill my______.)

            What else would you expect her lawyers to advise Knox to say–the truth!?? That she resented Meredith!!!?

            FACT:

            Meredith Kercher was a bright, lovely, magnanimous, kind-hearted young woman with a delightful sense of humor. No wonder everyone who knew Meredith spoke so highly of her. No wonder Meredith Kercher attracted a lot of friends, wherever she went.

            Amanda Knox, on the other hand was always loud and abrasive, always needing to be the center of attention. Always pulling mean-spirited pranks.(source: Groupie Burleigh’s book)

            But in Perugia, Amanda Knox’s behavior in Perugia seem to worsen significantly by the day. Amanda Knox had told her parents (source: Knox’s own book) that in Perugia she would have a demanding academic schedule (WHAT A LIE! ). When she wasn’t in class or studying, Amanda told parents Edda Mellas and Curt Knox, she’d be “in the library studying.’
            (ANOTHER KNOX WHOPPER OF A LIE!)

            Most young women can’t stand to be in the presence of someone like Knox. That does explain why Knox hangs with men.

            Yes, some men DO like a woman like Knox who is loud, socially inappropriate and boasting about her ability to attract any man she wanted.

            And that explains why AMANDA KNOX didn’t have a single FEMALE FRIEND after living, working and socializing in Perugia for two months.

            But yes, Meredith went out of her way to be kind and inclusive to Knox. Meredith TRIED TO BE TOLERANT. She made an effort to include Knox in her plans–initially.

            When Knox poured a drink over the DJ’s head and was ejected from the club, it was Meredith who had to plead for Amanda to be given a “second chance.”

            Meredith WAS a good flatmate. She did her share of the cleaning. Whereas Knox blew off her flatmate responsibilities. Knox couldn’t be bothered to flush her feces and menstrual blood down the toilet.

            THE PROBLEM WAS…the the kindness and respect was ONE-WAY. Meredith was doing all of it, Knox was doing none of it.

            Amanda was NOT considerate or sensitive to Meredith. Not before or after Meredith’s murder.

            Amanda admitted she didn’t have much feeling for Meredith. She had to “get on with her life.”

            Amanda Knox has said: “Meredith was always kind to me.”

            But Amanda Knox has NEVER said: “I was always kind to Meredith.” She could never say that and seem “sincere.”

          • Guest

            All too true. Meredith was a joy, civil, amiable, brunt of envy

          • carlofab

            SR Bach: You display profound ignorance in dictating the
            precise wording Amanda “ought” to use in talking about Meredith and denouncing her for not using it.

            Who appointed you Pope while we weren’t looking?

          • Guest

            Bach is right. Amanda refuses to speak the name of Meredith Kercher. Why? Because it’s painful for her, not so much from remorse as rage and anger that she didn’t get away with obliterating her competition off the face of the earth and then sailing off to live a carefree life going tee hee hee, I won. Meredith’s suffering meant nothing to her, but it is now fused with her own suffering and she busts her knuckles and weeps.

          • carlofab

            I suspect Amanda calls her “Meredith” rather than “Meredith Kercher” because they had a personal relationship and everybody knows who she intends. I doubt that she omits the surname “Kercher” because to speak it would be painful to her.

          • SR Bach

            carlofab:

            What an odd response. Nowhere in my post did I ‘dictate’ ” the precise wording Amanda ‘ought’ to use in talking about Meredith.”

            It was YOU who put that slant on it. It was YOU who came up with the word “ought.”

            Also odd was your reference to me vis-à-vis the papacy.

            The Pope is the leader of the Catholic Church. Amanda Knox has never, to my knowledge, considered the Pope to be her spiritual leader, nor a guide for her behavior.

            In fact, Amanda Knox has repeatedly stated she was and is an atheist. I believe that is still true, unless she has had a very recent religious conversion, a “come to Jesus” moment that I’m not aware of.

          • carlofab

            You wrote: “Why does she STRUGGLE to plainly say: ‘I didn’t kill MEREDITH KERCHER.'”

            Amanda said in court, “Meredith was my friend” and “I did not kill my friend”. You find these statements suspicious and indicative of guilt.

            My reference to the Pope was merely a comment on your pretense to authority on how people ought to say things. Amanda spoke unambiguously in plain language and there is nothing suspicious about her statements.

            Amanda personally reads the audio version of “Waiting to be Heard” (available from Amazon U.K.) and is not the least bit shy about saying “Meredith” or “Meredith Kercher” there.

            The stupidity of your remarks is appalling.

          • carlofab

            SR Bach: You wrote: “Why does she STRUGGLE to plainly say: ‘I didn’t kill MEREDITH KERCHER.’”

            Amanda testified at trial that “Meredith was my friend” and “I did not kill my friend.” That was abundantly clear to prosecutors, judge, jury and everyone other than you.

            Amanda personally reads the audio version of “Waiting to
            be Heard” (available on Amazon U.K.), and is not shy about saying “Meredith” and “Meredith Kercher”.

            My reference to the Pope had nothing to do with religion. It is in regard to your absurd pretense to authority on the precise wording other people ought to use to make statements that will please you.

            The stupidity of your argument that there is something
            afoot here is mind boggling.

        • Guest

          You got it. If Amanda can say anything vague or imprecise, she works it to death. Deniability while lying.

    • Guest

      Neither one has taken a polygraph.

  • Jackie

    This is nothing but bullcrap about this drug dealer. It has been over 5 years since Amanda Knox’s first conviction, why didn’t this drug dealer come forward then. Why now after all this time, because the prosecution is running out of ways to “get” Amanda Knox found guilty. She is innocent, leave her alone. Let it go. The guy that did this is in jail.

    • Checkmate

      The ‘prosecution’ had nothing to do with this media blitz. The Nencini court confirmed conviction way before the leak of the drug connection. Obviously, someone ELSE wants to gain from this leak.

      • Guest

        Knox lied about her drug use. Does James Terrano use drugs?

    • dylan

      it is not news the connection was known to police a few years ago . The dealer was sentenced to jail , his arrest helped by the information from AK friendship.

  • margo

    i have always believed drugs played a part in this case. Her lies and stories are just not believable, there is something she is covering up! Whether she cut Meredith’s throat…we will never know..but she had a part in this! She is guilty!

    • Guest

      Yes, margo. She is guilty.

    • OhioBrian

      God I hope you don’t ever get on a real jury someday; “I don’t find her believable and don’t know what really happened cause we’ll never really know, but she’s guilty!”

      Good thing they’ve proved it for you beyond a reasonable doubt and not just based on the preliminary characterization of her! Though I guess you’re little different than their initial prosecution who took the track, “you’re guilty we have this hunch as who else could it be, now instead of having hard evidence lead to determinations, please solve the case for us cause we know you had a hand in it!” -Total “guilty, now prove your innocence,” cause they presumed almost from the start Amanda murdered Meredith, not even giving thought to Guede for weeks.

      Also, I would direct you to read more as if anyone was covering up or “leading”, it was the initial prosecution for their absolute incompetence or even malfeasance, namely as its possible Meredith might not have been killed had Guede been taken off the streets based on prior behavior, but only exacerbated when Mignini led an actual, not just metaphorical, witch hunt against Knox before even Rudy was a revelation in the case and had “got away” to Germany! Whoops!

      Finally, you think she’s guilty then fine, swear it to what or whomever you consider most Holy (as you’re doing so anyway when there’s any chance Knox is innocent you’d be doing to her what Guede did to Meredith, namely depriving someone of their life unjustly). As for myself, I was once in the “guilty” camp, but now have examined the case and would swear such an oath to their innocence. Nothing is ever 100% in life, but I’m well beyond reasonable doubt and my conscience will be clear.

  • Checkmate

    All of this manouvering is irrelevant.
    The large body of evidence points to only one conclusion and the courts have decided : Knox and Sollecito are guilty as charged.

    The conditions for BARD are amply met : the victim’s wounds and COD, the known murder weapon, insufficient alibi, evidence at the crime scene, direct connection of each accused to the crime scene, the time line, the cover up. No other individual, other than the trio, has been even minimally suspected.

    In spite of the speculation, from a legal point of view the motive of the crime and the exact sequence of events are no longer relevant. Indeed, neither the court nor the public need know the details of that fatefull night for justice to take its course.

    • kcmookie

      “the known murder weapon”, you mean the one that does fit all the wounds? Alibi? What were you doing that night, and can you prove it? Direct connection? Please provide some proof of a prior relationship and communication with Rudy Guede. The always moving TOD timeline? Yup, nothing to see here.

      • Checkmate

        Please see the original court documents, such as the detailed report of Judge Massei. All your questions are answered there.

        • hikertom

          The Massei report is based on sloppy police work and conjecture. There is no real evidence. Raffaele’s knife doesn’t even match the victim’s wounds or the bloody knife imprint.

          • Checkmate

            Massei report is based on months of forensics and trial, confirmed by Cassazione, and final Nencini trial.
            Read before you talk, please.

          • hikertom

            I read the Massei report. It is based on unsubstantiated assumptions such as the assumption that the break-in was staged. Only the Hellmann report is based on independent forensic analysis.

          • OhioBrian

            I’ve read and think so much is quite motivated and bogus, namely as the initial case was so FUBAR, and the problem with justice systems is that all too often they are actually the most incapable of correcting for the actions of in improperly acting prosecution, which though rare is so perverse when so many others can so easily see the light. A big problem in this entire case is that there was an initial hunch as to what transpired and then almost all evidence collection and investigation was framed to fit this hypothesis; instead of the case following the facts, it led them which is not how a proper forensic investigation is supposed to proceed. It was blown wide open when Guede popped on the radar only well after Knox/Raff were charged and wild accusations were flying (IT WAS AN ACTUAL WITCHUNT not just a metaphor as Know was made out to be some succubus of a satanic cult!!!), and then again exploded when she and Raff actually went to trial and got convicted on such tripe! -Its total bogus BS!

            For me, my conscience is clear; Amanda and Raffaele are innocent. If you want to sweat their guilt before your maker then by all means go ahead, but otherwise you have doubts (which are reasonable), and to convict is thus akin to do to Knox what Guede did to Meredith, namely deprive someone of their life unjustly.

            Also, one final word, it’s been goin on 7 years from the start of all this mess, and you’re trying to make the case that details, motive, and exact sequence of events aren’t relevant when there’s been plethora of pontifications put forth by the prosecution so far? What planet are you on? -Cause nothing put forward at all holds muster to plausibility or probability as again everything presented has really been in speculation regarding the initial gut feeling Knox was guilty, now let’s explain why she would’ve or how could’ve done it…in conspiracy with Guede and Sollecito no less. The “data” is manufactured/”cherry-picked” to fit their case, with contradictory or implausibility ignored, totally the opposite of how a real forensic investigation is supposed to be conducted. BS I say, total BS!

  • carlofab

    The problem is that this case makes no sense:

    (1) The official theory is that Amanda Knox used her key to admit boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito and local serial burglar Rudy Guede into the apartment, and the three of them slaughtered Meredith Kercher in her bedroom. Their motive is unknown.

    (2) After Rudy Guede left, Knox and Sollecito somehow selectively cleaned all trace of themselves from the murder room, leaving only Rudy’s prints and DNA. And broke a window in another bedroom to suggest Rudy gained access there without need for Amanda’s key.

    (3) Police say “to further throw off the investigation,” Amanda walked into a police station a few days later and voluntarily placed herself at the scene of the crime to accuse Patrick Lumumba. But why, having gone to such lengths to erase herself from the scene and leave only Rudy, would Amanda place herself right back in the house to falsely accuse her boss – knowing very well that police would find no evidence of him there?

    (4) Shortly after signing the declarations, Amanda in a spontaneous declaration wrote that she doubted her visions of Patrick killing Meredith, and hoped police had other evidence against him because she did not feel that she could be a witness.

    (5) At most police had grounds to bring Patrick in for questioning. Instead they broke into his home and arrested him, and took him to the station where he says he was beaten and called racial slurs. They shut down his bar to put him out of business.

    Shortly after his release Patrick accused the police of these things, but it turns out his interrogation tape has also gone missing. Faced with a police slander suit and six years of prison (like Amanda faces for saying she was struck in the back of the head), Patrick retracted the allegations and said police treated him like a gentleman.

    Patrick was awarded $10,500 for the false arrest, but returned it, he says, out of admiration for the police. More likely he did so in hope they would not bring a slander suit against him.

    He sued Amanda instead but trial transcripts show he was quite kind to her in testimony. It was his attorney who presented the prosecutor’s case and attacked her character.

    Patrick has since fled to Poland with his wife, who has family there. He has had enough of Italy.

    • Dexter rookas

      AK only placed herself in the bathroom, not in the murder room.

      • carlofab

        Actually I think she imagined she was cowering in the kitchen and could hear Meredith scream while Patrick killed her. The point for the police was that she was not with Raffaele in his apartment, but at the cottage during the murder. Within hours of this statement she wrote that she doubted it was true, and felt sure she was with Raffaele all night.

        • Guest

          Amanda Knox lies like a rug.

  • keresteci

    In America a plea deal with 27 years to life as against life without parole or death would have been on the table. The Italian justice is very soft, Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito will have to stay another 10 years only.

  • Fredly

    Her hair was tested for cocaine use by the police. She tested negative. Knox did not use cocaine while she was in Italy. This is more of Mignini using the tabloid press to poison public opinion. Since they have no evidence they rely on character assassination.

    • http://www.manfromatlan.blogspot.com manfromatlan

      And you know Mignini was behind the “character assassination” how? Not that she had much character left, being a convicted felon for falsely accusing Patrick Lumumba of murder, but the people you really ought to blame would be her co-accused, Raffaele Sollecito’s family.

      • OhioBrian

        Which she retracted as well at the time(presuming she’s innocent which she is..and should have been afforded this right at that stage of the case as well a lawyer and her rights), she wouldn’t have known the innocence nor guilt of Lumumba, just the hogwash the police were feeding her and playing “prisoner’s dilemma” with Raffaele in the other room. This is why her “confession” is total BS, which actually both side believe to be the case, but unfortunately only “guilters” think points to her culpability, while many others now believe as many more facts have come to light, actually points towards her innocence. I actually love too her total “non-confession” confession with all its wonderful “I confusedly remember”, “I cannot remember”, “I remember confusedly”, and “I have a hard time remembering” lines. It’s totally bogus, particularly her “hard time remembering” of Patrick having sex with Meredith of which now the prosecution is pushing the theory that if anyone had such contact with Ms. Kercher it was only Guede and if him, he likely just used his fingers. Which, if she was there first I’m not sure why she would’ve pointed at Lumumba if she knew Guede was still on the run as she would’ve known all the info the police were feeding her about Lumumba was bogus and that they likely didn’t have squat on what actually went down at the crime scene, let alone why “confess” to something then she would’ve known absolutely didn’t happen, namely that Lumumba had sex with Meredith. If she was really there and strolling out of shower next day with police showing up(good job ditching the phones Ma Barker, not in the giant ravine behind the house but in town to be found hours later!), she’d have known the cops likely had her(and kept her mouth shut) or under duress made up some more distracting wild story, i.e. I was there but didn’t know who the assailant was. Its very hard to “read in” behavior of people though so who knows what went on in that room (cause of course there’s no videotape!!!!), but to me all her confession shows is that she was not in her right mind while making it, likely pointing to her being innocent/unknowledgeable of the events of the crime, and whatever the case its absolutely unreliable as testimony. Actually, I’ve made the argument many times that due to prosecutorial incompetence(or worse), there’s actually NO witnesses in this case AT ALL who are reliable! That’s actually where it really started to stink for me as there’s seemingly no motive at all for why Knox/Raff would’ve acted in concert with Guede to kill Meredith let alone sexually assault her(now not being focused on), but darn near every prosecutorial action seems just absolutely loaded with motivation. Not towards justice, but a witch hunt to cover for their own loss of face, but way worse incompetence or even malevolence; it seems something may have been going on with Guede as really based on just nabbing usual suspects/MO, but also fingerprints, they should’ve nabbed him or known his name within hours if not just a few days. But no, Mignini heard it happened the day after Halloween so there just had to be satanic intent and witchcraft afoot. That’s what’s totally crazy; initially Knox was made out to be an actual witch!!! -It wasn’t just a metaphor!

  • Sol

    With Raffelles new defense strategy of separating himself from Knox, I think a plan is in motion for the Florence Judicial system to save face. While not necessarily finding him innocent, Raffelle’s conviction will be thrown out due to some sort of technicality while Knox’s guilty verdict will be upheld knowing full well she will never be extradited.

    Italy will get their Guilty verdict which will keep the pitch forks at bay, Raffelle and Amanda will stay out of jail and Guede’s verdict will remain the same. Although, its not a perfect scenario, it will moderately appease everyone except for Peter Quennell and that guy who thinks he’s Jesus over there at PMF.

    • carlofab

      I see little prospect of justice for Meredith Kercher.

      Rudy Guede’s good luck was that police arrested three innocent people before his mischief was discovered. Prosecutors and police needed his cooperation to cover up a bungled investigation and for this he has been amply rewarded.

      For Amanda and Raffaele some measure of justice remains possible.

      Justice for Meredith would at this juncture require a purge or outright reform of the Italian justice system, with incarceration of those who participated in the fraud, and this I do not think likely. Meredith and her family have been betrayed by the nation of Italy, though their faith in its justice system has not wavered.

      • http://www.manfromatlan.blogspot.com manfromatlan

        Especially as Italy will soon be confirming Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito’s murder convictions.

      • OhioBrian

        I totally agree they’ve been misled and screwed, not least of which Guede got the “kid gloves” treatment and no one thinks he’s innocent. Pretty messed up that whatever ones’ beliefs, he’s at possibility to be on work release, i.e. parole out of the system in a brutal murder case, while the innocent/guilt of the other two isn’t even finalized yet. Justice delayed is justice denied!

        Actually though, it might’ve been a lot more prudent had the Perugians not issued formal charges and an explanation of the murder case against Knox and Sollecito before they had Guede; that was absolutely premature and a total embarrassment as well miscarriage of justice.

  • Dave Steiner

    A profound thought from Ira Einhorn’s lawyer. Einhorn is a psychopath found guilt of a sadistic homicide and nicknamed ‘The Unicorn Killer’. Curiously, he also claimed to be a victim.

  • Dexter rookas

    The last few words of the first paragraph sum things up. We’re never going to know the truth. And because of that, the appeal will be lost. Too many lies have been told by AK and RS. Has the money been paid to Lumumba yet?

    • Sol

      Amanda has already stated quite clearly that she will not pay Patrick because she states that she was coerced into naming him by the Police and that He should be suing the Police instead. Whether or not the coercion is true is irrelevant, its what she has stated.

      Therefore, the only way he can retrieve the settlement is to File a civil suit in an American court as all American Banks would require a warrant issued whiten America to release the money. Pretty straight forward and being such a high profile case, there would be plenty of Attorneys willing to file pro bono simply for the free publicity for their firm. Yet he hasn’t done it.

      Why hasn’t he ? Maybe he realizes that it wouldn’t hold up in court,? or that the Italian Prosecution has requested that he shouldn’t to protect its case?

      Something to consider here. Criminal trials here, as in all first world courts, have a strict code as to what can and can not be used as evidence. In a civil suit however, just about anything and everything can be said and used. This would allow the Defense to completely present their evidence for Police Corruption and incompetence without fear of Reprisals or counter suits by the Italian Police. Is it possible this is what is at stake here? Is the Italian Prosecution afraid of this case entering an American court? What does Patrick have to lose if their case is so solid?

      Even if Amanda is extradited, He would still need to go to an American Court to retrieve the funds as the money (if Any) is being held in America. The reasons for this should be quite obvious as anyone could simply hop the Border into Mexico and pay a small town judge to leverage civil suits against Bill Gates for example.

      If he feels he’s truly entitled to this money and this case is such a slam dunk because of the supposed ‘mountains and mountains’ of evidence. Why hasn’t he filed suit? As Its the only way hes ever going to see a dime from Amanda…

      • Guest

        Who says Amanda’s money is still in America. It might be in Cyprus where Raffaele has squirreled away his money.

        • Sol

          Any residuals from interviews, books or future movies deals and also including any future Job she lands or any inheritance she receives would be subject to a Court lean.

          The money would be automatically deducted from any paycheck she earns before she could even receive it.

          It would be unavoidable and automatic. She could not stop or block it.

          It as Simple as that

          • SR Bach

            Put a “lean” on future earnings?

          • Sol

            ah yea…thats what I said. Maybe lean is the incorrect term when it comes to future earnings but they still have the authority to deduct and could put a lean on any current holdings, even on overseas funds and will be deducted when the money returns State side. Regardless, my point is still valid and is something the Courts could do.

            They do it all the time, Child support is a common example.

            I do not know the Politics in Cypress, but couldn’t they file a Civil suit in Cyprus to receive the funds if thats where the money is? I would suspect the procedures are similar.

            I’m also aware that the Kerchers have been awarded Financial damages as well. The exact same thing would apply. If She decided to not pay, they would have to come to an American Court to plead their case.

            If there is truly ‘mountains and mountains’ of irrefutable evidence, then they have nothing to worry about.

          • glucose

            Could you italian guilter trolls do your jobs properly and put
            in the effort to check the english dictionary? The word is “lien”, not lean. The latter is what you do with a lamp post after drinking too much wine. As in “lean up against that lamp post”. You’re welcome.

          • SR Bach

            glucose:

            Could rabid Knox Groupies and Haters of Humanity–like you– do your jobs properly and put in the effort to READ CAREFULLY, before posting?

            It was Sol (not “an italian guilter troll’) who mentioned and first posted the word “lean.”

            Sol wrote: “…or any inheritance she receives would be subject to a Court lean.”

            Any more comprehension difficulties you’d like me to help you out with ?

            P.S. For future reference, please note that the first letters of the words “English,” “Italian” and even “American” should be capitalized.

            So, feel free to correct the mistakes in your post, above!
            (I know how much you want others to think that you’re such a stickler for precision. LOL! )

          • Sol

            You’re acting like an azz. I misspelled azz as well, yet the point is still clearly made.

          • OhioBrian

            Not really; she’s back in the States so if it comes down to, she’ll have her day in the courts, but more importantly likely the political system, over here. There’s a large percentage of Americans who believe she’s innocent, just as I’m sure there’s many who also believe in guilt, but when it comes down to it, only one of those groups will likely be writing Congressmen and Senators to prevent what they see as injustice, while the other, as much clamor as there is on the web, will likely not do as such, or at least not till Italy makes a very strong move first. Politicians in both systems though will probably wise up to the fact they want to keep this whole thing from boiling over so if Italy does push in the end, it will likely be that Amanda serve a sentence in an American prison. The odds of her going back across the Atlantic at this point are pretty slim as don’t forget either than its not just the US as a nation, but her State(of where her greatest support lies) that will have to be overcome, and just look at what single senators can do these days on Capitol Hill to gridlock everything over whatever narrow interest they wish.

          • Sol

            Im not exactly sure where you are going with this in regards to my post. Extradition fight maybe? But I’m specifically talking about a Civil suit for Patrick to receive his funds. This would be outside the jurisdiction of anyone within the GOV, thus immune to Political Clamor.

            Let me reiterate my statement. If this case is such a slam dunk, than Patrick would have no problem suing Amanda for Damages in an American Court as its the only way hes ever going to see a dime of her money. Why hasn’t he?

      • carlofab

        (1) Guilters make much of the fact Amanda’s attorneys have gone out of their way to make something clear to the court — they do not
        accuse the police of having struck or abused Amanda in interrogation.

        This is a curious position for a defense attorney to take
        with regard to her own client except…

        It occurs to me that with no interrogation tape, Amanda’s attorney would risk the same slander suit and potential prison time as Amanda and her parents.

        (2) The same fate appears to have befallen Patrick.

        When released from prison he gave interviews of brutal abuse at the hands of police. But his attorney made no such claim. Patrick sued only for false imprisonment, for which I believe he received the equivalent of $10,500.

        Subsequently Patrick said he was returning the $10,500 and renouncing the award out of admiration of the police. And changed his story to say police treated him like a gentleman.

        It is not implausible that Patrick’s interrogation was also not taped (or the tape was “misplaced”). This leaves him vulnerable to a slander suit and possible imprisonment for his interviews claiming police brutality. This is the stick they hold over his head.

        He escapes it by returning his $10,500 judgment, renouncing his accusations of brutality, and turning against Amanda instead.

        The last I read Patrick has fled to Poland with his wife, who has family there. He has had enough of Italy.

        Political scientist Edward Luttwak said in the Panorama interview that “Italy is like Burundi” and “The first circle of hell in Italy has a specific name: “justice”. It is a lesson Patrick appears to have learned all too well.

  • Chris Tuurbo Jarvis

    I for one will be very glad when this case is over and done with. I also wish people would shut up about who is innocent and who is guilty when its so uncertain. The only person we KNOW to be guilty is RG. Everything else is still up in the air like it or not. Both innocent and guilty supporters need to realise it may be some time until facts are established. But one thing we can all agree on, im sure, is that the investigation was a farce start to finish. Now we may never be certain what happened as some dna samples were so ludicrously small, they were destroyed to test with!

    • OhioBrian

      Not really; there is enough information out there now that one can form as solid of opinion as the juries and judges that have heard the case. Much actually rests on not just information, but who’s theories and persons one puts their faith in. Yes, unfortunately that’s not the way a justice system is supposed to work in theory, but ultimately it is how they really do in the real world as even with “hard” evidence like DNA and fingerprints, one is still putting their faith in the police/prosecution that collected and is handling these elements. Myself with this case, I’m fully convinced there are numerous instances of impropriety on the part of police and the prosecution, which unfortunately most all criminal justice systems in the world don’t handle well, namely as they are based on their “faith in the system” which means that in nefarious cases though thankfully fairly rare, when a prosecutor acts improperly, often the most easily duped is the judge in the courtroom, namely as almost can’t bring themselves to believe that a prosecutor has acted illegally, or can’t see the forest for the trees when the system has indeed screwed someone. It’s why such things as the “Innocence Project” exist as much as people don’t want to believe, justice isn’t perfect and there are those not guilty of crimes who sit convicted behind bars..sometimes for decades.

  • Lesa Duke

    She isn’t guilty but their system has no ryhme or reason to it. Seems like they can present evidence out of thin air.

    • Guest

      Phone calls are not thin air. Mixed blood in women’s sink is not thin air.

      • http://www.manfromatlan.blogspot.com manfromatlan

        Convictions are pretty solid though.

        • carlofab

          Convictions are findings of a court. They are neither evidence nor proof of anything. They are findings (conclusions) of judge and jury after the hearing phase of a trial is completed.

  • hikertom

    Because of their civil case, the Kerchers have a financial incentive to believe that Amanda and Raffaele are guilty.

    • Guest

      I bet they would give away any monetary award for just one more week of Meredith alive to hug them and to love her.

      • hikertom

        I’m sure you are right. But since that isn’t an option they will go for the big bucks.

  • hikertom

    World renowned DNA expert Dr. Peter Gill features the Meredith Kercher murder as a case study in his book: “Misleading DNA Evidence: Reasons for Miscarriage of Justice”.

    Dr. Gill concludes that contamination is most likely to blame for the incriminating DNA on Mr. Sollecito’s kitchen knife and on the bra clasp.

    He agrees with University of Rome professors Conti & Vecchiotti that contamination cannot be ruled out because the evidence was not tested in accordance with internationally accepted protocols for handling Low Copy Number (LCN) DNA samples.

    Because investigators failed to change their gloves in between handling the bra clasp, door knobs, and other objects “Sollecito’s DNA was transferred as a result of cross contamination”, Dr. Gill said.

    With regard to Ms. Knox’s DNA mixed with Ms. Kercher’s blood in the bathroom, Dr. Gill said: “There was little consideration about the preexisting background levels of DNA that would be present. Knox and Kercher shared the premises– their DNA will be everywhere.” In other words Ms. Knox’s DNA was residual and not related to the crime.

    The case against Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is based entirely on sloppy police work, conjecture, and statements made during long unrecorded interrogations without legal counsel. It is time to end this miscarriage of justice and to compensate Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito for the horrible injustice they have suffered.

    • Checkmate

      It is important to know that the DNA on the bra clasp was not LCN.
      For all his expertise, Peter Gill was NOT a trial expert in this case, has no idea what the RIS did or did not do, and has made numerous errors concerning established facts.

    • Guest

      One failed top cop wants to throw stones at other cops to make himself feel better. Italian police acted carefully. DNA is not everywhere in a house. Stop lying about the luminol finding bloody footprints in the hall. What’s the big shock in that, there were bloody footprints on a rug visible to naked eye, too.

      • hikertom

        Guest:
        Peter Gill is not a cop. What bloody footprints on a rug are you referring to? Do you mean the partial diffused footprint on the bathmat? Forensic specialists testified that it was too indistinct to identify with certainty, but it most closely resembles Rudy Guede’s foot.

        • Guest

          Top cop I refer to is Steve Moore, former FBI. I suspect it is Moore’s DNA theories that have migrated to Gill.
          The blue bath rug had footprint in blood, a match to Raf.

          • hikertom

            The only forensic expert who said the footprint matched Raffaele was the one who worked for the prosecutor. The two independent forensic experts disagreed.

          • Guest

            True, the blue rug footprint cannot be 100% accurate because of the cotton pile of the fabric. But don’t forget the biggie here, which is the fact it’s a naked footprint in blood. They already found Guede’s shoeprints in blood. What’s the chance he walked around barefooted in blood but then most of those prints disappeared wiped away in a hello cleanup!
            but then he runs out the front door in tennis shoes that left a bloody trail, and there’s no doubt that those tennis shoe prints are his. The point is big that Rudy had his shoes on walking through the blood, so it’s less likely the barefoot print is not his, especially as Raf’s hammertoe.

          • hikertom

            Guede must have taken his shoe off at some point.
            This illustrates one of the problems with the case against Amanda & Raffaele. Everything that cannot be easily explained is used by the prosecution as an excuse to fabricate a scenario that involves Ms. Knox and/or Mr. Sollecito.

          • Sol

            The defenses theory is that Rudy took a shower to wash the blood off his body and stepped on the mat getting out of the shower (which would also explain a drop of Meredith’s blood in the sink). He then used a towel to do a quick clean-up of his bloody footprints that would have certainly been made between the bedroom and the bathroom and threw the towel into the bedroom before he locked the door and left the cottage. If you believed he took a shower, then he had removed his shoes at some point and probably put them back on outside.

            This is a far simpler explanation than what the Prosecution put forward

            As far as the bloody footprint, Romes very own School of Forensics, did an exercise examining the foot print and it unanimously declared the foot print to be not Raffelles and consistent with Rudis. That same school also wrote the book in examining Body impressions.

          • http://www.manfromatlan.blogspot.com manfromatlan

            Bottom cop really, guest :) He really does have a lot of theories which somehow never seem to get proved in court.

  • Checkmate

    This is a shocking and libellous tirade against the victim’s family who have shown the utmost dignity throughout. People would do better to learn from such commendable behaviour rather than criticize with unfactual information. I gladly flagged this post.

    • Dylan

      These types of comments are common on IIP and JREF sites that have a collection of disturbed supporters.

    • SR Bach

      Checkmate:

      The individuals who write such posts are as disturbed… as they are disturbing.

      But, they are– after all– the Groupies of a remorseless convicted killer/ unrepentant slanderer and liar. So, when one reads the words of a murderer apologist, one must always “consider the source.”

      Malevolence and viciousness are the TRADEMARKS of Amanda Knox’s obsessed Groupies.

      Knox’s cult is made up of a number of disturbed individuals who enjoy hurting people without provocation, even if their malicious act takes time, effort and LOTS OF REPETITION. Their only “reward” for posting is the pleasure they derive in inflicting cruelty.

      Maybe we should muster up a little pity for them and their wretched lives. Who would want to imagine the life of someone whose only pleasure in life seems to be this one thing–inflicting their venom and cruelty on others.

      This characteristic cold-blooded LACK of sensitivity and LACK of empathy you see in Knox Groupie comments perfectly mimics and reflects that of their Idol– chronic liar murder, slanderer, Amanda Knox.

      Then, add that to those undesirable traits- that infamous lack of impulse control, and the lack of filters– of both Killer Knox and her cult. And, well, that’s how you end up with a post like the one above.

      These are the most desperate times for the two desperate murderers and their sick, very, very, desperate fans.

      Therefore, we should expect a lot MORE of the same–and even WORSE cruelty towards the family of the murder victim, MEREDITH KERCHER.

      Everyone knows that Judgment Day is coming soon.

      • Checkmate

        A lot what you say is true. We have to deal with such a low level on internet.

        • Guest

          Hear hear.

      • Guest

        It’s true, but they bring out the worst in me.

      • glucose

        Thank you. You just made my point for me, hypocrite.

    • Guest

      The Kerchers have kept quiet. Meredith was serene, patient. So are they.

    • glucose

      What a crock. The Kerchers have taken a very active role
      in the unjust persecution of Knox and Sollecito. There is
      NOTHING dignified about the underhanded ways they have
      taken part in this smear job. The Holy Family they are NOT.

      Not to mention the laughable hypocrisy of you guilter trolls.
      Only too happy to besmirch and libel Amanda Knox at every
      possible opportunity, but then you turn around and get your
      panties in a bunch if somebody points the accusatory
      finger at your “Holy Family”? Hah!

      Futhermore, here in the USA, if what was said was the truth,
      that is an -ironclad defense- against an accusation of libel,
      and we all know that what I said was the truth(mixed in with
      a tasty, creamy filling of invective, of course). Go smoke
      that in your pipe, guilter.

  • Sol

    Anyone notice the News blasts of the same story about the busted drug ring showing up on the net?

    Take a closer look at the sites. We have ‘Christian Today’ and the ‘Christian Post’. Before that, we had the ‘Venture Capitol Post’ and the ‘Lawyer Harold’ posting stories about Raffelles thesis.If you examined the sites, you will realize that they are all the same sites with different names.

    These are nothing more than RSS News feed search sites. Anyone can buy a Skin and name it whatever they want and the software generates generic content based on the theme you have chosen for the site. I did an experiment and tried to contact them and I have yet to get an answer on the phone or any type of reply by e-mail from any of them.

    Granted, I will concede that they could be legitimate sites owned by young entrepreneurs and are using this Case as a way to generate traffic. But what I find odd is that all four of these sites are named in a way that implies trustworthiness or legitimacy.

    The guilters go on and on about Amanda’s PR firm. Is their a guilter PR firm at work here? There has been a theory floating around about Kercher Senior being behind a lot of the Internet Propaganda. A Ground Report article (which I disagreed with) claims that Kercher Senior is Harry Rag himself. I may have to reevaluate my belief that he is involved if these mystery news sites continue to materialize as Kercher Senior has the background and connections to launch such a campaign.

    But, I work only with facts and Logic, so I will discard this thought as a hypothesis until I have real proof, but I will continue to probe….

    • http://www.manfromatlan.blogspot.com manfromatlan

      A journalist, Barbie Nadeau, says that Chris Mellas, Amanda Knox’s step father, sent her abusive messages. Another journalist, Andrea Vogt, says that abuse was directed at her from a block of IP addresses controlled by him.

      Do you have any proof that Meredith’s father John Kercher was involved in a PR campaign? If so, get a reputable journalist to publish that.

      • Sol

        First off, You cant quote anything from Vogt as a reliable source as she is nothing more than tabloid journalist and will print anything to make a buck. That’s what tabloid journalists do. But even so, It wouldnt surprise me if Mellas sent abusive messages as I can understand the anger he would have towards Vogt as she has been the leading force in the mis-information campaign against the two. Inappropriate? Absolutely. But I understand the anger. I would be upset as well if a reporter was printing garbage about my daughter.

        But, no. I do not have any proof that he is involved. If you actually read my post, you will have read that I was referring to a Ground Report article that I had read and the author was the one who had claimed that he had proof the Kerchers were involved. In the comment section, I disagreed with him and even chastised him for printing character assignation articles. You can look it up if you are looking for proof of his involvement.

        What my post is referring to is the unusual surge in these RSS Newsfeed web skins that are popping up on a regular basis. I’m speculating that there is a concerted effort from someone or some group to keep the negative spot light on Knox and Solleto. I could be wrong and it could be nothing more than someone trying to generate hits like the author has done at this site.

        Since you folks commonly mention the Knox PR firm, I’m simply doing the same. It wouldnt surprise me at all if it turns out to be true.

        Ive tangled with you before, and when I speculate, I always say as much and I never claim anything as Factual without actual proof.

  • SR Bach

    Why do some people STILL believe the FALSE allegation that Amanda
    Knox was “tortured” or “hit” or “coerced” by the Italian police?

    What do Amanda Knox’s own lawyers have to say about her allegation?

    MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER Amanda falsely accused an innocent man (Patrick
    Lumumba) of raping and murdering Meredith Kercher, this is what AMANDA
    KNOX’S OWN LAWYER, Luciano Ghirga had to say about the Creative Writing
    Major Amanda Knox’s allegation of being “hit” by the police:

    “Amanda wasn’t hit. There were pressures from the police, sure, but we never said she was hit.”

    –Luciano Ghirga,

    (October 21, 2008)

    QUESTION:

    WHY do Amanda Knox’s Groupies CONTRADICT Amanda Knox’s own lawyer?
    Discuss amongst yourselves!

    • Guest

      They accuse Ghirgha of lying.

    • carlofab

      Ghirga is aware that — because the tape of the interrogation has gone missing — he can be imprisoned for slander if he supports his client’s contention that she was struck.

      Police are seeking six years for Amanda and three for her parents for repeating this allegation.

      Italy is a curious country in which a defendant can be acquitted of a charge, but imprisoned for having slandered prosecutor and police in winning the acquittal.

      Patrick initially claimed he was beaten — until it was discovered that his interrogation tape is also gone missing. His attorney scrambled to clarify that they claimed no abuse but were merely suing for false imprisonment.

      Patrick retracted his claims of abuse and voluntarily returned a $10,500 judgement for false imprisonment because, he said, he admires Perugia’s police and wants nothing from them. More likely he returned it in hope they would not imprison him for slander. He cooperated with them by suing Amanda at trial, though transcripts show he spoke quite kindly about her
      in testimony. It was his attorney who ripped into her reputation.

      Patrick has since fled to Poland with his wife, who has family there. He has had enough of Italy.

      • Guest

        Wow! I had no idea Patrick returned the $10,500 what a guy.

        • carlofab

          The award was for 8,000 euros which I am told is roughly $10,500 American dollars. His attorney made clear they were suing only for the false arrest and made no claim for abuse. Patrick won but subsequently said he didn’t want money from the police for whom he has much respect.